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Barbara Bush is allegedly TICKED off at Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Andy Card, nearly all of them -- except Karen Hughes -- for how her boy is faring in the hearts and minds of Americans.

The matriarch of the Bush clan is colder than North Pole ice right now to those around her son who she thinks have undermined him. I'll tell who my sources are if Patrick Fitzgerald gives a call and makes me -- but the sources are very close to Poppa Bush (41), who has been traveling a bit with some of his old entourage, including Brent Scowcroft and others of the first Bush regime.

While TWN has been able to confirm that Laura Bush's mother-in-law wants to do more than put coal in the stockings of the Vice President and the other top handlers of her son's White House, we have not been able to confirm a slightly stronger bit of the rumor, which is that Barbara -- not Laura -- was planning to call on Nancy Reagan just to get a refresher lesson on how she took on and kicked out then Chief-of-Staff Donald Regan. (I embellish here; Barbara Bush is not going to take lessons from Nancy, it just sounded good. My source told me that Barbara was about to "pull a Nancy Reagan" on these attendants.)

Cheney may be tougher to dump than Don Regan, but then again, Barbara Bush is one of those wonders of nature (we hear) who knows no limits and can easily surge beyond category 5 hurricane winds.

Should be interesting to watch the role of the First Mother in the coming couple of months. Watch for a lot to change right after the State of the Union address, I've been told.

And if you are near the radio or internet termninal, I'll be chatting with Sam Seder of Air America's Majority Report tonight at 7:50 p.m. ET for a quick ten minutes.

More later.

-- Steve Clemons

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Reader Comments (189) - post a comment

Posted by anon, Dec 01 2005, 5:36PM - Link

nice red meat post...all this wonky stuff was causing malaise

Posted by RJJ, Dec 01 2005, 5:37PM - Link

The First Mother may be the only person in the country who is up to the task.

It would assure her place in history.

Sounds good!

Posted by wilson46201, Dec 01 2005, 5:52PM - Link

anybody that has lived around Lynne Cheney for years can handle a Barbara Bush...

Posted by koreyel, Dec 01 2005, 5:59PM - Link

Bush has lost the battle for the hearts and minds of America.

He is a loser now.
A loser tomorrow.
And even a bigger loser when the historians shred him to bits.

For a majority of Americans he is starting to sound and look and act like a far bigger wimp than his father ever was. He has been dismissed to the back of the class to carve his initials in a desk.

As far as Barbara Bush goes...
I'm sure most Americans feel exactly like I do:

Why did they put that shrew on the cover of our one dollar bills?

Disgusting.

I'll take four quarters please...
Oh no...nevermind.
Dimes. Dimes. Dimes.

Posted by understandinglife, Dec 01 2005, 6:10PM - Link

"The sources said Mr. Bush has privately blamed Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the U.S.-led war in Iraq. They said the president has told his senior aides that the vice president and defense secretary provided misleading assessments on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, as well as the capabilities of the regime of Saddam Hussein.

As a result, the sources said, Mr. Cheney has been ousted from his role as the administration's point man in the area of national security. They said presidential staffers have kept Mr. Cheney out of the loop on discussions on policy as the White House has struggled with the political and intelligence fallout from the war in Iraq."

More at the link:

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Cheney2.htm

They're all running but they've got no where to hide.

It IS Tribunal Time In The United States of America.

Peace,
UL

Posted by chophouse, Dec 01 2005, 6:10PM - Link

Mommy !!!! Make it stop !

Posted by RJJ, Dec 01 2005, 6:22PM - Link

" ... the sources said, Mr. Cheney has been ousted from his role as the administration's point man in the area of national security."

Sources close to Karl Rove possibly? Who has replaced him as point person?

Posted by Red_Neck_Repub, Dec 01 2005, 6:35PM - Link

Bar is evil incarnate, but take on Big Time? Don't think so.

Posted by Buford P. Stinkleberry, Dec 01 2005, 6:43PM - Link

Wasn't it Nixon who said of Barbara Bush,
"She really knows how to hate"?

Posted by gwili brunner, Dec 01 2005, 6:53PM - Link

Poor Babs! people are picking on her little boy. He's getting sticks and stones thrown at him.

To bad, he didn't serve his time in the service. Maybe, just maybe he'd have learned how to cope with out his Mommy

Posted by runner, Dec 01 2005, 7:20PM - Link

I think you'd enjoy Patrick Fitzgerald making you.

Posted by JB (not the U.N. John Bolton), Dec 01 2005, 7:22PM - Link

I'm not familiar with the term 'First Mother'.

Shouldn't it be something more like 'Dowager First Mother'? Or, why not a simple 'Mrs. 41'? Doesn't Laura qualify as 'First Mother'?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[BTW, my curiosity should not be interpreted as anything other than ice-cold feelings toward Mrs. 41., which I feel confident are warmly reciprocated.]

Posted by penalcolony, Dec 01 2005, 7:28PM - Link

Pardon me for not sparing too many drops of my heart's blood for poor outraged Bar, or Poppy, or even Saint Laura Dostoevsky. Those people knew better than anyone else that Georgie's great gift in life is for stepping on his own scrotum -- I've mislaid the article in which Laura was described as saying her husband was incapable of changing a light switch -- and they could have put the kibosh on his presidential ambitions, had they so chosen. But, no; THE DYNASTY had to prevail, and so here we are. As for Bar's housecleaning: Card's ready to bail anyway, Rove's on a slow boat to indictment anyway, and Cheney's not going anywhere without a shove from Fitzgerald.

Posted by Garbo, Dec 01 2005, 7:31PM - Link

She doesn't care about George. It's Jeb she's worried about. If the Bush name gets dragged through the mud thoroughly enough, the dynasty's next emperor won't be able to rise to the throne.

Posted by RJJ, Dec 01 2005, 7:51PM - Link

It must be personal for her. First woman to be both wife and mother of a president, and the people who used their name to get into power disgrace it.

That really would be a tad irksome.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 01 2005, 8:05PM - Link

Having Barbara Bush gunning for you is the stuff nightmares are made of. I wish Steve hadn't of posted this, I may wake up in cold sweats imagining her looming in my bedroom doorway with an ax. Perhaps I better rethink my habit of calling her little darling "Monkey Boy".

Barbara, if you're reading this, trust me, I understand. The poor little man is doing the best he can with what God gave him, and I apologize if I have been too harsh on the poor dear. In the future I will try to refrain from insulting his lack of brains and integrity, and will focus my disdain on the evil doers around him that have maliciously taken advantage of his mental handicaps.

Perhaps you could recommend Ala-non to those in his immmediate sphere, and they might know better how to treat the little dear.

Posted by koreyel, Dec 01 2005, 8:06PM - Link

She doesn't care about George. It's Jeb she's worried about. If the Bush name gets dragged through the mud thoroughly enough, the dynasty's next emperor won't be able to rise to the throne.

No doubt.

Country or La Familia Bush?
The choice for this crime family is simple.

That is EXACTLY what the Harriet Miers nomination was all about. You never can tell when your family might need a Supreme Court Justice.

Aunt Harriet, gushing over Boy George, could be trusted to do the family's bidding for years and years.

Posted by draculich, Dec 01 2005, 8:08PM - Link

She' gonna go Nurse Wratchet on their asses.
Rove will end up throwing Washington's marble bust through a West Wing window in order to escape her shock therapy.

Posted by Dons Blog, Dec 01 2005, 8:16PM - Link

POA,
I still like the description of Post Turtle for Bush.

"You know he didn't get there by himself, he doesn't belong there, he can't get anything done while he's up there, and you just want to help the poor dumb bastard get down."

I guess that makes Babs the post.

Posted by vachon, Dec 01 2005, 8:19PM - Link

Manifest Destiny meets Medusa.

$10 on the snakes.

Posted by RichF, Dec 01 2005, 8:26PM - Link

Here's a hunch that might explain a few things.

Over at TPM, Josh Marshall has a post up that says one of Lincoln Chafee's staffers keeps popping up in Marshall's stack of unpublished emails relating to Abramoff's "skybox freebie gravy train."

Soooo.... perhaps there's something there that would explain Lincoln Chafee's extraordinary discomfort as he voted for cloture on the Bolton nomination -- or could explain his utter lack of responsiveness to a) constituent and stakeholder concerns, b) reasoned debate, c) and the ongoing political trajectory of the Bolton nomination, and d) the national interest.

Josh's post:

(December 01, 2005 -- 01:17 PM EST // link)
After I saw this Sacramento Bee article about Rep. Doolittle (R-CA) and his increasing entanglement in the Abramoff investigation, I went back to our trove of unpublished Team Abramoff emails to see how often Doolittle showed up on the skybox freebie gravy train.

His office did show up, but actually not that often -- certainly not as often as I would have expected, given how tight he apparently was with the Abramoff clique.

Perhaps there was a leadership office or committee he was associated with back in 2000 and that obscures him in the references. But I doubt it. And he's nowhere close to fellow Rep. Richard Pombo (R-CA) as an Abramoff freebie-meister, for instance.

But what really surprised me was this. As I looked through the emails last night, a name that came up again and again was a staffer in the office of Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R) of Rhode Island. That's odd since Abramoff tended to buy into members of the House rather than the Senate, though not exclusively. And Chafee just doesn't strike me as a very choice target for Jack.

Who knew?

-- Josh Marshall

Posted by Charles Jordan, Dec 01 2005, 9:35PM - Link

OFF TOPIC COMMENT:

I read alot of conservative blogs. It's not easy reading but I want to know what's being written. Also, I'm a conservative (I'm stop calling myself a Republican about 2 years ago)...

Anyway www.theconservativevoice.com has a new article that claims Murtha is insulting the military because he said the military is "broken" and "worn out." The title of the article is "Democrat Murtha steps up Derision of Military." George Bush Republicans are so desperate to save their idol that they claim its an insult to say units facing their third combat tour in Iraq might have equipment, men (and/or women) that are just plain worn out and broke down.

I'm confident the vast majority of Americans are too smart to buy into that sort of thinking. But it's sad to see this being done to a man who has a lifetime record of concern for military people and their family.

I think alot of these Bush Republicans lack geniune respect for the military. They gave praise only to military only when it serves to support their boy Bush.

I don't like McCain's position at all but I bet if we could lock Murtha and McCain in a room overnight with a pot of coffee, pen and pad, and a bottle of Jack Daniels they could devise a better solution for what to do in Iraq than the so-called Leadership in this administration.

One more thing: Ann Coulter's latest writing questions the validity of Murtha's purple heart. I feel sorry to that woman. I hope she doesn't have children because they shouldn't be burdened with her legacy.

Posted by cs, Dec 01 2005, 9:45PM - Link

Personally, I blame the parents. As for Babs, I've known women like her all my life. The harridan class, I call 'em. Indulged, wasted lives.

Posted by Bill Brock - Chicago, Dec 01 2005, 9:56PM - Link

Young Babs = Angela Lansbury in The Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by Tim B., Dec 01 2005, 10:32PM - Link

A real man doesn't get his elderly Mom to clean up his messes.

Pathetic. At least Jonah Goldberg will understand.

Posted by Jim Faith, Dec 01 2005, 10:37PM - Link

This could be the stuff of Wagnerian opera - Bar as The Valkyrie?

Posted by Ben Rosengart, Dec 01 2005, 10:41PM - Link

Steve,

I respect the reporting you're doing, but I hope you don't accidentally put yourself into the position of court scribe to Poppy Bush. His crowd is useful when they criticize Junior, and they're certainly smarter than his people. But they are not saints, and they are as hungry for power as anybody.

I see you as an outsider's insider. I'd like to see that continue.

Posted by Dan Kervick, Dec 01 2005, 10:41PM - Link

Bush's problems are mostly his own damn fault. He's an idiot - and it's probably not genetic. It likely has more to do with the fact that he was a lazy, underachieving bum as a young man. Maybe he should have studied some of those papers his professors gave him to read, instead of rolling them up to snort coke off a mirror.

When people came to him and said: "Hey George ... you should run for President! We can help you win!", he should have said in reply: "Um ... are you kidding me? In case you haven't noticed I am an ill-educated halfwit. I'm the ne'er-do-well in this family operation. Now, I may be dumb, but I'm also smart enough to know I'm too dumb to be President! Don't you mean Jebber?"

But he did run for President, apparently convinced that dynastic succession was enough of a qualification.

I'm sure that even when Bush was a kid, Mom thought that his problems were all due to his friends - no doubt they were all bad influences on poor G. W. Same story now - it's all the fault of those no-good kids Andy and Karl and Dickie. Maybe if Babs made little George take more personal responsibility, he wouldn't have turned out to be the dumbest president in history.

Posted by Nan, Dec 01 2005, 10:50PM - Link

I am nostalgic for Nancy. She would never have allowed things to get this out of hand.

Even with Ronnie in the early stages of Alzheimers Nancy made sure VP Bush never got close to power. She figures out, correctly, that allowing VP Bush to get close to power would cause complications for her husband. Nancy kept VP Bush castrated and at arms lenght throughout Ronnie's presidency. She also did not allow anyone on her husband's staff to get too powerful.

Laura seems more like the Pat Nixon type. She looks and acts like a Stepford Wife.

I don't think Babs will get anywhere with Cheney. Not with Lynne around. She has met her match with Lynne. They are both mean and vicious.

Posted by joe, Dec 01 2005, 10:51PM - Link

You mean it's taken her THIS long to figure out the Cheney-Rummy-Rove cabal duuped her poor little boy!!!! she's none too bright is she?... i mean-- a bit slow thinker.

Posted by Steve Clemons, Dec 01 2005, 10:53PM - Link

Dear Ben -- Your concerns are noted and appreciated, but you really don't need to worry. I do have good relationships with people inside this Bush administration as well as within the last Bush administration -- but most of my efforts and the work I'm nudging forward is in progressive circles. I don't plan to be court scribe, but I do plan to encourage those who thing more rigorously and rationally about global issues -- in Bush 41's world -- to challenge the general irrationality and knee-jerk impulses of Bush 43.

So, hang in there with me -- but don't worry that I'm falling into a pit. I think I know what I'm doing -- and some of it is having exactly the impact I'd been hoping for.

best,

Steve Clemons

Posted by milolutz, Dec 01 2005, 11:01PM - Link

Now, if she were only powerful enough to cure Neil's herpes...


Posted by fiat lux, Dec 01 2005, 11:06PM - Link

First woman to be both wife and mother of a president

Actually, Abigail Adams was the first woman to fill that role.

Posted by Propagandee, Dec 01 2005, 11:13PM - Link

Barbwire's beautiful mind couldn't be bothered with the images of body bags returning home from Iraq, but suddenly she notices that one of them is embossed with a plaque that says:

George W. Bush's Legacy.

RIP.

Posted by Ol' Blue Eyes, Dec 01 2005, 11:14PM - Link

Time for the Manchimpean Candidate to play a little solitaire?

http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/reviewm/rmanchurian_candidate_1962.jpg

Posted by Joan Erwin, Dec 01 2005, 11:30PM - Link

I have met this woman and have never seen a more ugly bitch in my life, not to mention her inappropriate behavior. If I were poor George, I would never rely on this matriarchal symbol of evil.
However. maybe it is a family trait. mums

Posted by big dave from queens, Dec 01 2005, 11:39PM - Link

Barbara Bush is Ann Coulter with bones. As her son is being exposed as the worst President in American history, a man who while not Hitler or STalin, should crack the top 10 list of all time worst dictators, a man who said F the troops send them to Iraq when there was no threat nor 9/11 link, and a man who is turning America into a 2nd rate economy, it should be interesting to see The Matriarch spew her venom on those around her putrid son who allowed this to happen.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 01 2005, 11:51PM - Link

I hope we will all keep in mind that today 4 MORE American soldiers were MURDERED in Iraq today by the actions of her coke sniffing AWOL COWARD of a son. 4 more DEAD. Four more families wracked BY GRIEF over the holidays. Four more mothers, fathers, wifes, sons or daughters who will mourn the UNNECCESARY death of their loved one.

And, as Cindy Sheehan would ask of this lying son of a bitch in the White House.....

WHAT IS THE NOBLE CAUSE THEY DIED FOR????

AND WHY WON'T THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A MAN MEET WITH SHEEHAN AND ANSWER HER QUESTIONS???

(And, how many Iraqis DIED TODAY because of this coward's actions??? Oh, gee, thats right, we don't keep count.)

Posted by Ace Loves Gary, Dec 01 2005, 11:55PM - Link

Cheney will be joining Dan Quayle and Dana Carvey on the dead-player pile...may turn up in a Moby video...

Posted by librarylady, Dec 01 2005, 11:56PM - Link

A lady who went to my church (in ALaska) that I knew casually dated GW while he was up there in the 70s. I didn't get there until 82, but I heard stories of the white powder flowing. I'm not talking about snow. And what did this lady
and GW do on dates? Drink of course! I also heard second hand that she was very worried when
he became President.

Posted by ll, Dec 02 2005, 12:00AM - Link

First they have to get to the State of the Union address.

Posted by Craig, Dec 02 2005, 12:02AM - Link

Richard M. Nixon said of this woman, "That is a woman who really knows how to hate!" Kind of makes a person wonder what she has in store for old Dick and CO. We are so lucky to be living in such times you can't pay for entertainment like this.

Posted by Robert Morrow, Dec 02 2005, 12:22AM - Link

must get Cheney ... must get Cheney ... must get Cheney. --> reminds me of a few months ago when it was "must stop Bolton ... must stop Bolton ... must stop Bolton." In between was " must get DeLay ... must get Delay ... must get Delay." That scorecard for the Wash. Note reads 0-1-1. No wins yet, a loss on Bolton, that wonderful gremlin, and a tie on Delay. However, the liberals are up on points with Delay, but he is expected to have a strong close.

Posted by Neocondan, Dec 02 2005, 12:24AM - Link

Summary of Bush comments above:
He's a lazy, idiotic, moronic, dumb monkey who pulled the wool over the eyes of 75% of the Democrats and 52% of those who voted for him in the last election.

As the Church Lady would say: "Isn't that special"

Posted by Mr. Natural, Dec 02 2005, 12:35AM - Link

"Poor George, born with a silver spoon in his (nose)" Barby Bush spewed this monster on the world...we owe HER!

Posted by Groucho Costello, Dec 02 2005, 12:48AM - Link

Bush was never worthy of the hearts and minds of America - not since the stolen election of 2000 and especially not since 9/11 a colossal assault which involved criminal negligence and possibly even criminal complicity by the Bush junta.

It's been a bad trip since 2000 and it ain't getting better until it's over, over here.

Posted by Jenius, Dec 02 2005, 12:50AM - Link

Babs must hate herself for marrying and spawning two of the worst Presidents in history.

Of course, it's not Junior's fault at all. The blame goes all around his nice little bubble. So thanks, Barbara, for revealing once again where the buck stops in this Administration.

Posted by NotABush, Dec 02 2005, 12:51AM - Link

I'm trying to imagine the dissonance inherent in attaining orgasm while mounted upon Barbara Bush. Generally, when men avail themselves of farm animals, the animal is facing away. Perhaps that was the case here. It’s a miracle 41 didn’t stroke out in relieving himself amid revulsion.

Posted by nik, Dec 02 2005, 12:53AM - Link

Can she get Bill O'Reilly fired while she's at it?

Posted by James Cirile, Dec 02 2005, 12:55AM - Link

See, Poppa Bush knew not to get too greedy, and to keep the shenanigans out of plain sight, not to flaunt it where the world could see and come to despise you...

Everyone, please sign the petition urging Senator Boxer to get out in front on the issue of Election Fraud. Diebold is now rolling into California and South Carolina... Ohio '05 was a joke... and the mainstream media remains blacked out on this topic. Fair elections are pretty much done for unless a politician has the balls to get up and expose the election thieves (ahem, someone whose last name is not Kerry) and FORCE the media to cover it.

This is a new petition, but I believe one worth championing:

www.petitiononline.com/boxer123

Send the link to everyone you know who cares about the theft of America!

Posted by presidunce, Dec 02 2005, 1:04AM - Link

George Carlin has an appropriate 'handle' for her...'silver-haired douce-bag.

Posted by Tyler Simons, Dec 02 2005, 1:09AM - Link

"Cheney's gone by the State of the Union," is what I called almost a month ago. Sounds like I might've been close. Whoo-wee.

Posted by s9, Dec 02 2005, 1:15AM - Link

Ann Coulter is one of the few women on Earth who could birth a child and still be barren. Barbara Bush is one of the few women alive to have ever done it.

Posted by Shannon, Dec 02 2005, 1:39AM - Link

I hate to burst everyone's balloons, but according to the t.v. Dick Chicanery will be out giving three speeches for Bu$h this coming week, so it looks like Mr. insider has been fed a line of crap.

And BeelzaBaBs Bu$h apparently still has no influence with Georgie, he will keep the pals he runs with, screw his reputation, he's only there for the money and Dick delivers.

Posted by Ray Radlein, Dec 02 2005, 1:46AM - Link

I don't like McCain's position at all but I bet if we could lock Murtha and McCain in a room overnight with a pot of coffee, pen and pad, and a bottle of Jack Daniels they could devise a better solution for what to do in Iraq than the so-called Leadership in this administration.

Hell, the bottle of Jack Daniels alone could do that.

Posted by moonsha, Dec 02 2005, 2:09AM - Link

The Bush's are masters at the blame game. Shouldn't she take responsibility for raising a child with a silver spoon in his mouth? Maybe if she would have made him take some responsibility for all his mistakes growing up, he just might have developed a little humility. To Barbara, you are the bitch that bore him, so deal with it.

Posted by JHJ, Dec 02 2005, 2:31AM - Link

"I don't give a good goddamn if you want to be a cheerleader. Your father and I have decided you are going to play sports, like all the other little boys, mister sissy britches. Now get your hands off of your damned hips, you little pansy, and fetch me a scotch on the rocks!"

-- Mrs. George H. W. (Barbara) Bush, 1954

Posted by buck turgidson, Dec 02 2005, 2:40AM - Link

Babs is one mean bitch. I hold her personally responsible for the anti-intellectual position of the rest of her family--41 was reasonably well education and had a head on his shoulders, but 41-W is dumb as a stump.

On the other hand, looking over the comments so far, I share the general sentiment that if there is anyone who has the balls to rip off Cheney's, it's Bab's. Of course, Lynne may already have them in a jar hidden somewhere right next to his heart in another jar. The good news, 43 is on anti-psychotics, Laura's on downers, Dick's on nitro--to say the least, and TurdBlossom's on a hot seat. Babs could still use something to fix her thyroid herself, but all she has to do is play keepaway with Cheney's meds and she can easily outlast him at that game. :-0

Posted by carol greene, Dec 02 2005, 2:59AM - Link

oh Please.....Babs couldn't worry her "beautiful" mind on the men and women who have been killed in Iraq, but she can waste her time worrying about the idiot son she bore and more or less raised.
She needs to climb back on the Quaker Oats box or pour her son a drink and maybe he'll choke on another pretzel. Cheney can slither back under the rock he came out from under. Rove can call Joe Gannon and the two of them can skip out into the sunset hand in hand hopefuly never to be heard from again. What a bunch!

Posted by The Liberal Avenger, Dec 02 2005, 3:03AM - Link

She's 80 years old... Has she still got that kind of fire in her?

Posted by S Brennan, Dec 02 2005, 3:26AM - Link

Jeeze Steve,

If she had raised the kid correctly this wouldn't be an issue.

If she had a trace of moral backbone she'd be giving herself a whipping.

S Brennan

Posted by Pete, Dec 02 2005, 3:29AM - Link

Barbara Bush is proof that beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes straight to the bone. A freak born without a soul.

Posted by smartalek, Dec 02 2005, 3:36AM - Link

IIRC, wasn't she the one who said Geraldine Ferraro (sp?) was a "rhymes with witch"? Why would anyone on the planet ever consider her to be a person of any class but the very lowest?
Far as I can see, Babs rhymes with "blunt."

Posted by Rockin in Afghanistan, Dec 02 2005, 3:43AM - Link

That blue haired battle ax is indeed a bitch and the Chimp didn't fall far from his tree. I think some of their problems are genetic.

Read Justin A. Frank's book "Bush on the Couch". The man's right - Basically the Chimp is a Sociopath and you can see right where he got it from.

Babs is a cross between the Borgias and Elizabeth Bathory. Bathory bathed in the blood of virgins.

Babs is contentedly bathing in the blood of the 1,100+ young men and women who have already died for her psycho son's lies.

This family is Pure Evil and one day they're gonna have to answer for it. I hope he ends up before the Hague on War Crimes charges.

Posted by Robert Morrow, Dec 02 2005, 3:58AM - Link

Note to the people above with Bush Derangement Syndrome: 3 more years! And if the Republicans run Condi, who I am no big fan of, in 2008 ... I nonetheless would enjoy it because it would neuter the Democrats for 20 more years.

Posted by sfmike, Dec 02 2005, 4:09AM - Link

What a brilliant set of commenters, but none of you have mentioned the Only Important Book written on the subject, none other than Kitty Kelley's recent (but quickly thrown out of public view) opus on the Bush Dynasty. The book is quite terrifying and frankly I couldn't finish it. You know there's just going to be another horror around the bend.

What does come through loud and clear in the two-thirds of the book I read, however, is that the serious architect of evil in that brood is definitely Babs. I'm really enjoying watching the witch melt in public. Her Margaret Hamilton moment in the Astrodome post-Katrina was pure "Brewster McCloud."

Posted by dan, Dec 02 2005, 4:24AM - Link

All very interesting, Steve. I've commented before that the pattern of Bush's life has been broken - and that daddy is not going to come to the rescue this time, as hanging out with his surrogate children, Bill'n'Hill, is much more rewarding.

I somehow doubt that Bush-mere has the political savvy possessed by her ex-CIA, ex-VP, ex-President husband, and his wide circle of influential friends, that will be required to remedy the situation. I suspect that things will get very nasty - which will be great fun for those of watching from afar.

Another little tidbit from this morning's Today programme on Radio 4, an interview with Robert Baer: "the Atlantic alliance is being shredded".

Posted by Kevin Lyda, Dec 02 2005, 4:46AM - Link

Barbara Bush cares about one American. That's nice.

I'm more concerned about what her boy is doing to other 300+ million.

Posted by Charles Jordan, Dec 02 2005, 5:27AM - Link

Anybody here read "What it Takes" by Richard Ben Cramer? he has a hell of a good profile on Barbara. Her childhood, how she met George41 and their move to Texas. What a terrible petty woman. After reading it you feel sorry for 41--seriously you will. She really is just a ole'battle axe.

Posted by rjj, Dec 02 2005, 5:40AM - Link

quoth Dan: "I somehow doubt that Bush-mere has the political savvy possessed by her ex-CIA, ex-VP, ex-President husband, and his wide circle of influential friends ..."

This is First Mother's strength. Cheney plays a guy's game. Her years of experience give her an advantage over Lynne. Anyway, the latter is a practical woman; she could be bought off with a Carlyle sinecure.

As for Liberal Avengers's comment about FM being 80 years old: lands sakes, honeydear, spite give geezers get-up-and-go. If the pharma-quacks could find a way to patent it in pill form, they would market it as a life-extending miracle drug.

Posted by greyhawk, Dec 02 2005, 5:40AM - Link

Seems that Mother Babs is the only one with cajones in the entire family.

Posted by liz, Dec 02 2005, 6:06AM - Link

With restless Americans sitting on the edge of their seats watching the worst prez ever tear up every single thing in the world...the constitution, the way of life, Iraq etc... how long are we all just going to watch? Who cares what Barbara Bush thinks. Why doesn't anyone anywhere care what ALL OF US think......
Then there is the matter of white unmarked surveillance aircraft flying all over the skies of Columbia SC... BRING THEM DOWN>

Posted by 49ER, Dec 02 2005, 6:17AM - Link

I have a strong hunch bush43 is not about to leave the white house and give up all that power, especially after picking all the right-wing cronies to do his biding and raise to the glory he feels he deserves.

Don't be surprised if the 2008 election is cancelled because of "serious terror threats" around 2007 and chimpy stays in power and will become "KING GEORGE."

I just can't picture all of them gone and out of power. We need more than another "election" to get rid of them, for sure. I hope and pray I am wrong. May be if we all pray for a huge miracle and that is what we need.

Posted by Tate Matthews, Dec 02 2005, 6:22AM - Link

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/petition2.htm

==I want my representative in the U.S. House of Representatives to vote to impeach President Bush for the high crimes described in the case for impeachment made by Veterans For Peace, and have the case prosecuted and tried in the U.S. Senate. Signatures on this petition will be delivered to the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee and to the ranking Democrat on the Committee

htttp://www.veteransforpeace.org/
Laws violated by President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, public officials under their authority, and members of the U.S. military under their command, sufficient for impeachment
Veterans For Peace does not sell or share names or addresses. We are asking for your address to make this a real petition to Congress.

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/petition_release.pdf

New Declaration of Independence:
"A (President) whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/impeachment/violations.doc

Veterans for Peace believes the following to be a partial, but sufficient, summary of relevant laws violated by President George W. Bush and Vice-President Richard Cheney, arising from their decision to invade and occupy Iraq, followed by documentation for each violation. Veterans for Peace will add additional violations to this summary as they are made known by eyewitness military personnel and other credible sources.

We believe these violations constitute impeachable offenses under the U.S. Constitution Article II, sec. 4, and that the U.S. Congress is therefore compelled to impeach President Bush and Vice-President Cheney.

Posted by Dave Porter, Dec 02 2005, 6:22AM - Link

Watching the World Series was tough during the
games in Texas. There was Babs, right behind
home plate. Must have cut into the advertising
ratings something fierce.

The young lady in Boston who kept flashing her
boobs at the Yankee pitchers last year was much
more attractive.

The thing about Barbara Bush is that she has never
had anything going for her besides gall. She might call it grit and determination. Others would describe the same thing as having her head so firmly up her ass that she can see daylight and talk, but she can't listen.

Posted by JDC, Dec 02 2005, 6:40AM - Link

Robert Morrow . . . I think you greatly overestimate Secretary Rice's patience, endurance, and charisma. She is not a skilled politician. She won't be able to handle the process, and she's not gonna win people over. Her primary moment of true fame was before the 9/11 Commission, where she came off seriously snotty, and pretty clueless as well. All the Dems would have to do is run that same excerpt, over and over:

"[Pouting] Well, it was called 'BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE INSIDE THE U.S.', but, like, that doesn't meaaan anything! Why are you guys, like, being such assholes? I'm The White House! How DARE you question me?!? Hmph! What. EVER."

. . . and having said that, I know Rice is intelligent and talented. But she's no election winner. It's not race, and it's not gender: It's her.

Posted by gatorron, Dec 02 2005, 7:22AM - Link

The Dems have the Kennedys, the Rs have the Bush family. At least the Kennedys have good looks and charisma. What do the Bushies have going?

The Wimp. The Chimp. And a Matriarch w/gonads. You couldn't dream this stuff up. Well, maybe in a nightmare.

And down here in FLA, we've suffered w/Jeb for 7 years, and he's the one Babs wants next.

So Steve's probably onto something here. She needs to clean house -- to clean the way for Jeb! Sucks!

Posted by Craig, Dec 02 2005, 7:25AM - Link

The more I learn about the first mama, the more I realize why Dumbyanocchio is such a wimp.

Posted by Roger, Dec 02 2005, 7:37AM - Link

Look Babs, you spawned this moron. You are the one who has to accept a good share of the blame for the situation we are in. You sat on your fat ass feeding your face instead of your soul when you should have been mothering this misfit. What do you expect. Your apple did not fall far from the tree.
By the way can you tell me one thing you have done in your lifetime to make this a better world. I didn't think so!

Posted by BrStarr, Dec 02 2005, 8:04AM - Link

Hey, Morrow. Haven't you heard about 2006?

That's the year we take back the Congress and we Agnew Cheney.

He's set himself up by not reporting his traveling expenses for one even if we don't feel like forcing the cooked intelligence down his throat.

Then we force Bikeboy to chose a VP we like and we toss him to the Democratically controlled House and Senate.

We may not get everything we like. They probably won't get everything they deserve, but damn it they will be out of power and Middle America has woken up now and won't be back to sleep for a while. (I hope).

What was it I heard? Nixon said that Cheney was without morals, and Kissinger called Rummy "ruthless". Oh yeah, and Rummy has to go because, Golly gee, he's a Nazi.

Posted by Baker, Dec 02 2005, 8:10AM - Link

It would be hard to pull a "Nancy Reagan" on the Vice President. But, Don Rumsfeld is completely vulnerable. He has messed up the war from the beginning, and he is now being undermined by some of the senior officer corps. I really think Rumsfeld will "retire" in early 2006.

Posted by Bmer, Dec 02 2005, 8:18AM - Link

You know its getting bad for Dubya when his mommy has t bail him out

Posted by Karnak, Dec 02 2005, 8:30AM - Link

Here's a solution such psychopaths might think of. Sure, maybe just a brain fart but you know they have to have thought of it: Wouldn't it be convenient if 43 was martyred by "terrorists?" Now there's a way to get the US back on the neo-con train. We'd accept nuking Iran, invading Cuba, anything . . . and sneek in the end of Social Security while you're at it . . . who'd notice?

Posted by casaroja, Dec 02 2005, 8:31AM - Link

Lady McBush should be careful. They might remove her picture from the Quaker Oats box.

Posted by Jim Bartle, Dec 02 2005, 8:34AM - Link

I guess the president coule ASK Cheney to resign, but as I understand it, he can't fire him. Am I wrong? Cheney was elected (in theory) just as Bush was, so he can't be fired.

Posted by Ada, Dec 02 2005, 8:41AM - Link

She's a nasty women that made a nasty son.....continuing to protect the immoral idiot even into his 50's...a family of criminal control freaks with power, no wonder the country has fallen to pieces. That family the bush's has slept with every enemy from hitler (Preston) to saddam to osama and still people are fooled by them...HOW F'g SAD! Let's not forget Neil that bankrupted American banks (which is now layig the bed in China with another brother for future bush family power continuations).

Posted by Aimee, Dec 02 2005, 8:41AM - Link

Good for Barbara Bush! She sees that her son has been used big time. Anyone can see that George W. Bush cannot think let alone make decisions. Fitzgerald sees it too. Wake up America! We've been had, led astray, bamboozeled, hoodwinked, lied to ....

Keep talking Barbara! Shine the light on Cheney, Rove ...

Peace,
Aimee

PS: The FACTS are out there. The whole world is watching.

Posted by ET, Dec 02 2005, 8:43AM - Link

Me thinks she also needs to take a look at her own house for balme over what her son is going through. Yes Cheney, Rove, et al deserve a lot of the blame, but ultimately it is the president, her son, that need to shoulder some of the responsibility for this mess.

Frankly, I have got to wonder if part of the president's problem with not accepting reponsibility for his f**k-ups is the way his parents (as seen in this post, specifically his mother) like to blame others for Georgie's problems or bail him out of trouble so he doesn't experience any negative consequences. Now I don't know if this story is exactly true but it sure as hell doesn't ring false does it? At which point in the president's life has he ever really had to face the consequences of his actions? At what age to parents stop looking for scapegoats for their children? Once I graduated high school I had to start sholdering the consquences and once I graduated from college I was a grown up and responsbile for my life. My mistakes were my own, no one elses. To bad the president hasn't learned that.

Posted by Henry J., Dec 02 2005, 8:57AM - Link

Read the Kitty Kelley book for the real scoop on Babs. It's like reading The Godfather with Bar taking the role of Don Corleone

Posted by molly bloom, Dec 02 2005, 9:03AM - Link

I am glad you cleared up the Nancy thing. I read the 1st part about calling Nancy and said Bullshit! The anomosity between the two is well known.

Posted by dan, Dec 02 2005, 9:06AM - Link

RJ:

Whilst the prospect of a cat-fight between Bush-mere and Ma Cheney is thrilling ( I tingle with anticipation!) - especially if it's done on TV - it won't actually result in the actual problems of Bush's flaking presidency actually being addressed.

Posted by Collin Baber, Dec 02 2005, 9:27AM - Link

Marie Antoinette has run out of cake and now she wants us to eat icing.

Posted by Geek, Esq., Dec 02 2005, 9:28AM - Link

And so many of the people in the White House here, you know, were had underprivileged approval ratings anyway, so this is working very well for them.

Posted by Jesus B. Ochoa, Dec 02 2005, 9:31AM - Link

First mother? No, First Bitch.

Posted by RJJ, Dec 02 2005, 9:32AM - Link

these things take time, dan.

deus ex machina operators are bound by union rules.

Posted by Camille, Dec 02 2005, 9:40AM - Link

I think she looks more like the quaker oats person rather than george washington. Go look and tell me it's not her.

Posted by roberta, Dec 02 2005, 9:40AM - Link

Sonny boy has turned to drink again and mommy is his only friend, because Laura is too busy chain smoking back behind the barn.

Daddy has been in charge except that sonny boy decided to show daddy just how big, bad and brave he really is, not that slobbering alcoholic drug addict that daddy had KR put on a short leash, so many years ago.

And so it is, sonny boy who never did anything except promise mommy he would make daddy proud, started the war daddy didn't finish.

All those horror movies about mommy, will now take a B rating once mommy Bush decides to save sonny boy from his own demise.

Maybe mommy was the co-dependent and that's why sonny boy still thinks he can do whatever he wants.

Daddy's horses and men can't save sonny boy anymore.

I don't think any of the people who live in Iraq care that sonny boy's war game isn't fun for mommy, daddy and sonny boy, anymore.

In fact, hopefully the war of truth is now going to visit the Bush family and they get to have the great white elephant shitting in the middle of their living room, until it can, no more.

Posted by izzybeans, Dec 02 2005, 9:41AM - Link

I'm sure this has been said ad naseum, but..."That's a man baby."

"No. Austin. That's my mother."

Posted by Phyllis Smith, Dec 02 2005, 9:45AM - Link

Babs against Cadaver Dick...the Clash of the Evil Titans. No wonder the movies have lost popularity. Who needs movies when we have this kind of entertainment? DeLay on the take, Cunningham rolling over for tax evasion and accepting bribes,Abramoff paying off everyone he can get close to, Frist and the family business[which I know from personal experience isnt too good to commit medicare/medicaid fraud]Bush and his unabashed desire for laws that permit torture and the invasion of the privacy of innocent citizens. Now Babs is going to take on Cadaver Dick. This is better than the circus.

Posted by Category 5, Dec 02 2005, 10:00AM - Link

Babs was a bad mother. She failed to show little, uncurious
George sufficient love during the formative years, and now
the rest of the world suffers the consequences.

Don't confuse her fury with a mother's protective rage. Hers
is the frenzy of a narcissistic control freak.

Posted by JR, Dec 02 2005, 10:02AM - Link

Can't wait for the verbal match between her and Lynne Cheney.

Posted by magmax00, Dec 02 2005, 10:03AM - Link

I seen where someone said to smarten up we've been duped. True most have, but I was telling people back in 2000 about this idiot. I was listening to Americans in Texas.
Anyway, old Babs wants a scapegoat all she has to do is use herself for raising a lying, bribing, immoral, murdering, cheating little thief. His name should be "Campaigner and Thief".

Posted by ConstantComment, Dec 02 2005, 10:07AM - Link

She should've thought of all this before she raised him to be a narcissistic, entitled, whining, moronic, smirking, clueless and pathetic excuse of a man (not to mention president).

Posted by biloxi, Dec 02 2005, 10:08AM - Link

On the Huffington Post (12/02) there is a very interesting read. It really looks like GHWBush is up to his old CIA tricks, taking information that was used to give LBJ the power to increase the war in Nam, and what do you think he is gonna do with this?

Barbara the Hun is going to fix the intelligence to save her sons.

She taught them the blame game and they play to win.

This swiftboating of Georgie Porgie is a bummer for mumsie and its all the fault of those bad boys who led him astray.

Jeb is indeed her golden boy. She did not dream Georgie would be prez and now that Jeb is not going to be the next prez, she's really pissed.

Lynne the fire baton twirling cheerleader can beat up Georgie the megaphone only boy head cheerleader.

Letters to Barbara the Hun, blizzards of letters, or postcards with pictures of how we really feel about Georgie and Jeb, need to be mailed as holiday greetings.

Posted by Charley Andrisano, Dec 02 2005, 10:13AM - Link

What a ridiculously unimportant piece of clap trap.
We've lost more than 2100 of our youth in an unjust an illegal war. And thousand of innocent Iraqi citizens. How about Barbara going after her dimwitted son, and making him tell the American people I was wrong. He pulled the switch, didn't he?

Posted by Monica, Dec 02 2005, 10:21AM - Link

With all that's been said, the most awful, horrifying, terrifying thing to remember is that a huge number of people actually voted for this moron. Regardless of the voting machine fix and keeping certain registered Dems away from the polls and all the other underhandedness, a huge number of people really truly honestly did vote for this aberration of humanity. Are they merely sheep? I hope so. Otherwise, that means getting rid of him is only the first step.

Posted by pecos, Dec 02 2005, 10:25AM - Link

The Barbara card is played sparingly. The questions are, who's playing it now, and why?

Posted by thinker, Dec 02 2005, 10:25AM - Link

Babs has to play many roles here, she has a need to protect her baby, the Bush legacy, and ensure that the next generation can ascend to the throne. This is actually quite tricky, as to blame those around Bush (and there are many, many of them) would make her boy look really stupid for chosing an entire administration who have made her W look bad.

OTOH, she has a nasty history of retribution and revenge and one knows that she lives to destroy those whom she feels are disloyal, untrustworthy, or are in any way resposible for bringing taint upon the Bush name and legacy.

There was a great Vanity Fair article written about her a few years back that I think is still available on the web site.

Never underestimate people like the Bushes as they all have their roles to play, and they know those roles quite well. Babs and W have always been the hit men in their family so while I would say that Bush is a bumbling idiot, he is also a vengeful idiot. Anything that Babs has planned for his perceived enemies, I would bet that W had a hand in planning it as well.

Posted by chefrad, Dec 02 2005, 10:29AM - Link

With apologies to W.H. Auden, Barabara has a face akin to a cake that has been left out in the rain.

Posted by Mark, Dec 02 2005, 10:38AM - Link

Bar assured her place in history AND showed her true self when she gave us this little ditty:

Almost everyone I've talked to says, 'We're going to move to Houston.' What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.

And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, this is working very well for them.

Posted by Pete Bogs, Dec 02 2005, 10:38AM - Link

she's ticked that she has to worry her beautiful minds with them... and that she has to rub elbows with the disadvantaged at baseball stadiums...

Posted by Snowball, Dec 02 2005, 10:41AM - Link

I think these "leaks" from sources close to the Bush family and the White House are designed to insulate little Goergie from criticism and lay blame on his underlings. I read a book recently called "What They Knew" which consists of interviews with people who lived through NAZI Germany. One person said they idolized Hitler and believed everything that went wrong was the fault of his underlings. I believe something similar is happening here.

Posted by sally, Dec 02 2005, 10:42AM - Link

Barb is one scarey thang isn't she? I have a friend who goes as Barb each year at Halloween--the red suit, the whitefright hair, the pearls...he ALWAYS wins the contest. May she rot in someone's trunk.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 10:46AM - Link

Well, it looks like Buzzflash likes this story line.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/12/ana05045.html

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Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 10:50AM - Link

I think these "leaks" from sources close to the Bush family and the White House are designed to insulate little Goergie from criticism and lay blame on his underlings. I read a book recently called "What They Knew" which consists of interviews with people who lived through NAZI Germany. One person said they idolized Hitler and believed everything that went wrong was the fault of his underlings. I believe something similar is happening here.

Posted by Snowball


Trouble is, in THIS case, Bush IS the underling.

Posted by HateBothParties, Dec 02 2005, 10:52AM - Link

Jeb told a Hispanic audience that Dumbya's 2004 *election* was a result of an intervention by the Virgin of Guadalupe, who is venerated in Mexico and Central America -- I kid you not.

My *vote* as if any vote will ever count again, goes to George P. for the next Bush in the Die-Nasty. Jeb has too much baggage what with the smuggler wife, happy pills daughter and being himself a follower of the Great Satan, the Pope.

Babs went to my school (Smith College) and there are a couple old women in our local club who were her contemporaries, and Nancy Reagan's too. Both Babs and Nance were viewed by their classmates, even back then, as that word that rhymes with witch ;-)

Posted by Ricardo, Dec 02 2005, 11:13AM - Link

How can the woman on the $1 be cold as ice if so many 'makes her blood boil'?

Posted by RJJ, Dec 02 2005, 11:13AM - Link

PECOS!!! yesssss.

Posted by judy garland, Dec 02 2005, 11:29AM - Link

Why is everyone picking on Mickey Rooney?

Posted by arsenia gallegos, Dec 02 2005, 11:32AM - Link

I am a committed Perotista - so there is no love lost between me and Mr. Bush. I've always
considered him to be a priggish momma's boy,
intellectually incurious, and unsuited to power for a variety of reasons.

He outsources book learnin to the help - so that, ya know, he always has the best advice money can buy.

As for his family - they routinely drink at the well with the devil - this time they needed a longer straw.

Posted by Chicagoan, Dec 02 2005, 11:39AM - Link

The only rule upon which I steadfastly rely as I am beseiged by the five-year-long tidal wave of lies spewing forth from this illegal hunta and the major media sources whose collective balls it has in a vice is this: Rely with great comfort on the fact that every single word issuing forth from these democracy assassinators, whether from the White House or its Pravda enablers, is orchestrated towards a specific propagandistic end...not to mention that every law passed is designed either to further promote the architecture of a fascist state or to transfer the American people's tax money into their friends' pockets, but that's another story.

Were I the public relations firm tasked to handle the nuclear fallout arising from laser scrutiny being trained on Cheney and Rumsfeld, et al., I would recommend that rumors be spread of Bush feeling betrayed and Cheney's being shut out of policy. That way, the puppet in the bubble can continue to appear lily-white (or is that just cocaine?) to that inexplicably deluded strain of Bush supporters. Critical in the propaganda process here is that the illusion be maintained that the problem here is with just a "few bad apples" (albeit it top-ranking folks in the executive branch) and that the very core of the Presidency is still legitimate and unblemished.

As to Babs, has she really been deluded all this time into thinking that the necon forces behind propping up her mentally disabled son as U.S. President was because the neocons thought Bush would be a great President? Was her ego so inflated at the thought that she didn't know the neocons were going to use him as a brain-dead puppet while Cheney would be installed as the de facto President, with he and his neocon thugs making all foreign policy decisions?

Cheney is not being kept out of policy discussions. Bush doesn't HAVE policy discussions in the sense that he thinks through policy, discusses it with knowledgeable people and then makes a decision. I truly believe that it's all Cheney, all the time.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 11:39AM - Link

"Jeb told a Hispanic audience that Dumbya's 2004 *election* was a result of an intervention by the Virgin of Guadalupe, who is venerated in Mexico and Central America -- I kid you not."

Posted by HateBothParties

I suspect you will just disappear with my request, but could I see a link that supports that assertion????

Posted by Warren at Ft. Lauderdale, FL, Dec 02 2005, 11:43AM - Link

If Barb takes on Cheney, she'll have to lock horns with Lynne Cheney. That's one cat fight I'd pay big to see. Talk about the "Clash Of The Titans!"

Posted by DAS, Dec 02 2005, 11:45AM - Link

Richard M. Nixon said of this woman, "That is a woman who really knows how to hate!" Kind of makes a person wonder what she has in store for old Dick and CO. We are so lucky to be living in such times you can't pay for entertainment like this. - Craig

Is my tinfoil hat on too tight: I am starting to wonder for whom Woodward really was working, so to speak, in the days of Watergate. GHW Bush and Nixon were competitors for the same niche in the Republican party (moderate enablers of the far right -- Nixon 'cause he was pissed at the establishment moderates for not accepting him and GHW Bush 'cause he figured out that the ideas of the far right would be good for fun and profit) who hated each other. Given Woodward's rather favorable treatment of GW Bush (at least in the most public of fora), is it too off the wall to wonder whether Woodward is somehow in the pocket of the Bush family and has been for over 30 years now?

Posted by DAS, Dec 02 2005, 11:50AM - Link

"The sources said Mr. Bush has privately blamed Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the U.S.-led war in Iraq. They said the president has told his senior aides that the vice president and defense secretary provided misleading assessments on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, as well as the capabilities of the regime of Saddam Hussein."

Don't worry. Soon GW Bush will publically be blaming not Cheney and Rumsfeld but rather the same people O'Reilly is claiming are trying to wage war on "Christmas".

My snarkiest thanks go out to the neo-cons for doing things that will make life bad for all of us in our tribe -- I hope that if the eerie parallels between the US now and Germany in WWI unfold to further future parallels, they'll send you guys to the chambers before me. It's just that I'm not confident the memory of Americans for who actually did what when is better than the memory of the Germans -- in fact, unfortunately for folks like me, it may be worse.

But Bobo, et al., don't think because you kiss up to "them" and fancy yourself to be one of "them", you'll be safe. 'Cause you won't.

Posted by Chicagoan, Dec 02 2005, 11:52AM - Link

DAS -- Your theory about Woodward is extremely plausible. I mean, what kind of reporter worth his or her salt would be so flippant and ridiculous as to suggest that the issue whether someone in the executive branch has outed a CIA agent is just a "tempest in a teapot"? That is all the evidence I need to determine where his loyalties lie.

Posted by Chicagoan, Dec 02 2005, 11:56AM - Link

Oh,my god. Although I steadfastly boycott Faux News, I was channeling past the idious locale yesterday when I saw the banner: "Breaking News Story: War On Christmas." And on the bottom was the scrolling type: "Terror alert: raised" or something to that effect.

This is so frightening in its Orwellian ramifications, there is just no words to properly describe it. Why has our country, we Americans, become so lame that we seem to have no way to run Faux News out of town?

Posted by RJJ, Dec 02 2005, 11:57AM - Link

Pissed off American, Google Jeb Bush Virgin Guadalupe.

apparently he was quoted in the Miami Herald. All after the line is from http://www.allhatnocattle.net/12-14-04_holy_guadalupe.htm

You will have to pay to access the article yourself.

_______________________________________________

Governor recalls political miracle

Gov. Jeb Bush, a devout Catholic, credited the Virgin of Guadalupe with interceding on his brother George's behalf during the 2000 presidential election.

Miami Herald (Subscription) 12-14-04

TALLAHASSEE -- Exactly 469 years after the Virgin of Guadalupe was said to have appeared in Mexico, Gov. Jeb Bush was marveling at another act of higher intervention: The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to make his brother president…

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 11:58AM - Link

"As to Babs, has she really been deluded all this time into thinking that the necon forces behind propping up her mentally disabled son as U.S. President was because the neocons thought Bush would be a great President? Was her ego so inflated at the thought that she didn't know the neocons were going to use him as a brain-dead puppet while Cheney would be installed as the de facto President, with he and his neocon thugs making all foreign policy decisions?"

Posted by Chicagoan


Look, the woman probably knew by the time Monkey Boy was fourteen years old that he was in serious trouble mentally and emotionally. As far as him ascending to the throne on the backs of his handlers, I don't believe she could possibly have thought that he would be a good president. I believe it was her hope that his handlers could carve a favorable niche in history for him by the prudent writing of a good script. She failed to take into account that Monkey Boy would actually BELIEVE he was considered presidential material. All he had to do was stand back and read his lines, and Rove and Cheney would do the rest. Thats where she made her SECOND mistake in managing her poor man child soon to be president drama. She failed to consider that anyone SLIMEY enough to buy into such a caretaking position would be slimey enough to advance their OWN nefarious agenda above and beyond poor little malleable Monkey Boy's charade. This poor miserable wench really believed the village idiot she raised could, like he has done all his life, rise to fame DESPITE himself, just by following directions and smirking for the cameras. Poor old bag, she forgot to ask Cheney just EXACTLY what the directions were going to be.

Posted by Mike Brown, Dec 02 2005, 12:02PM - Link

It's pretty sad if Barbara can't recognize that if George can't stand up to those giving him advice and make sound decisions on his own, he has no business being president in the first place. I'm not surprised that Barbs has chosen to blame others for the overwhelming errors of her son's administration. She, better than anyone, should be fully aware of her son's mental shortcomings and character problems.

Posted by DAS, Dec 02 2005, 12:05PM - Link

And to think, back in the day, my friends and I thought the worst thing about Woodward was how he, the "Goy", got to do all the fun, cloke and dagger stuff (as well as getting more than his fair share of the credit) while he left all the real work of "following the money" -- the most important part of actually breaking Watergate (contrary to what the MSM is saying, Watergate was not a story due to a single anonymous source -- it was a story 'cause the source told Woodward where to look and when Bernstein looked there, they found the story in the money trail!) -- to his Jewish colleague.

But maybe my friends and I have watched too many Woody Allen movies? ;)

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 12:06PM - Link

Governor recalls political miracle

Gov. Jeb Bush, a devout Catholic, credited the Virgin of Guadalupe with interceding on his brother George's behalf during the 2000 presidential election.

Miami Herald (Subscription) 12-14-04

TALLAHASSEE -- Exactly 469 years after the Virgin of Guadalupe was said to have appeared in Mexico, Gov. Jeb Bush was marveling at another act of higher intervention: The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to make his brother president…

Posted by RJJ

Well gooooolly! That explains it, a VIRGIN elected him!! I shoulda known it was someone that didn't know what a "man" is.

Posted by The Crapture, Dec 02 2005, 12:06PM - Link

O lordy, the silver gorilla and her beautiful mind are on a tear...

and me without my popcorn.


i could cry.

Posted by ChimpBeGone, Dec 02 2005, 12:23PM - Link

Bar needs must be taken to the Hague where her uterus will stand trial for crimes against humanity in spawning the demon clan that afflicts us. The sentence? Public immolation of the offending organ after its televised removal sans anaesthetic to be followed by retroactive sterilization. She will then be interred at Gitmo as an enemy combatant with lead containers of all her descendants ashes chained to her person. Is that fitting enough punishment for what she unleashed on us?

Posted by Trittydi, Dec 02 2005, 12:33PM - Link

"Those people knew better than anyone else that Georgie's great gift in life is for stepping on his own scrotum --"

God! - love that - such a wonderful mental picture!

The family is riddled with AD/HD. That's why they're all uncontrollable alchoholic druggies. Poppy is the genetic source for this - not the "silver douch bag." (no disrespect for others with AD/HD intended, including my wonderful SO and children)

She reminds me of Catherine de' Medici. - an ambitious woman with a penchant for poisons who married a king and was mother to three kings. But while probably no less ambitious, I think she might have been smarter than Barbara.

Queen B was certainly a failure as a mother. And her son has failed at everything he has tried to do his entire life. What a pair of losers.

Cheney vs. Queen B? They'd be able to sell tickets to the event.

Jeb has not "ruled out" a run as president - read that last week. I hope his new invisible friend will be a handicap for his ambitions.

Condi is toast. Shopping in NY and buying a pair of $7,000 shoes while the people of New Orleans drowned looks bad on her resume.

Posted by ruocalz, Dec 02 2005, 12:37PM - Link

Barbara Bush is known in political circles in this state [TX] as "the meanest woman in Texas"--has been for years! Her son got all of her stellar qualities: sarcasm, vindictiveness, self-centeredness, pettiness, etc. Further, dubya--according to recent reports--does not speak to his father only his mommy, who he also turns to for advice. There is no way she is going to sit quietly on the sidelines while her poor baby gets the crap kicked out of him. And, heaven knows, it's never dubya's fault! He's doing a heck of a job!

Bar was livid with James Baker for YEARS due to some screw-up with the Bush I library--I think she wanted it to go to Rice University, where Baker went ahead and instead set up his school. It wasn't until (S)Election 2000 that Baker made his way back to the Bushes via dubya. Odd how many of Bush I's castoffs and leftovers (such as Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld) find their way to the son.

Bottom line, though, in the Bush Clan: if mama isn't happy, no one is happy.

Posted by The Missing P Project, Dec 02 2005, 12:50PM - Link

It really shouldn't be a surprise that Dubya is turning into an ignored loser. Same thing happened in Texxas where he proposed a state income tax. The Dem Legaslature patted him on the head and ignored him. After that he quit trying to do much of anything except inflict himself on the rest of the nation.

Vote for Resident Bush!

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Posted by Wally, Dec 02 2005, 1:05PM - Link

It's a shame that old Babs wasn't spayed about 60 years ago. What a totally different world this would be. No Iraq war, no stolen election in 2000 and probably 2004, no bank scandal with her younger spawn, no trashing of the Constitution and a USA which would still be admired around the world.

Posted by Cole..., Dec 02 2005, 1:08PM - Link

Babs bush cannot allow her 'beatiful mind' to be disturbed by destructon, killin, maiming but having her little boy 'undermined'!, now that's serious stuff.

The way it was supposed to work is that geroge would handle the 'vacation and work out' stuff and come around to grab the credit, while the others do the stuff to generate the credit.
Too bad, Babs, like the rest of us credit sometimes turns into debit.

If george only knew that he might have been more successful in private business and the Clinton/Gore surplus would be still around. You've been fooled again Babs, join the crowd.

Posted by ouch, Dec 02 2005, 1:18PM - Link

I'm no fan of Barbara Bush but as the insults here became increasingly vulgar, and directed at her appearance and sexual attractiveness (or not), as a woman I feel an urge to shout enough already.

Why is it that criticism of women in public life sooner or later sinks to this kind of crap? During the height of the John Bolton furor, a man whom I would guess posters here dislike more than Barbara Bush, the posts weren't nearly as personally venomous.

Posted by jaye, Dec 02 2005, 1:22PM - Link

Babs and Georgie have some sort of Freudian/Oedipal thing going on. She really used him as a surrogate husband when Poppy was away. Georgie is her son. Jeb is not as close to her as Georgie.

But the whole family is pretty f*cked-up. Too bad the country's attention never wanders back to that other son, Neil, who is yet another ass. Why don't they trot that daughter Dot out more? Could it be she is somehow worse on camera than the boys?

Here in Houston, the town genuflects at the sight of the Gray Battleship. Folks here were only slightly embarrassed at her remark about how well the evacuation was "working" for the Katrina survivors and how she heard it was "scary" how they all wanted to stay in Houston.

Posted by RJJ, Dec 02 2005, 1:29PM - Link

Barbara Bush may have the highest IGQ (Immanuel Goldstein Quotient) of anyone in US public life. At the mere mention of her name people start flailing, twitching, and frothing at the mouth.

Posted by jello, Dec 02 2005, 1:34PM - Link

has the battle axe come after bill clinton yet for his recent criticism of the war?

Posted by ConstantComment, Dec 02 2005, 1:34PM - Link

As amazing as this sounds, I read somewhere (probably Kitty Kelley's book) that Bar has always referred to W. as "the chosen one." I think that about says it all.

Posted by RJJ, Dec 02 2005, 1:40PM - Link

"During the height of the John Bolton furor, a man whom I would guess posters here dislike more than Barbara Bush, the posts weren't nearly as personally venomous."

Bolton's photo featured his remarkably delicate hands. There was no need to be venomous. Tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner.

Posted by turtle, Dec 02 2005, 1:54PM - Link

Is Bush afraid of Cheney? Can't take Cheney on and he needs his momma to pull a "Nancy Reagan"? This is pathetic!

Posted by koreyel, Dec 02 2005, 2:00PM - Link

Gov. Jeb Bush, a devout Catholic, credited the Virgin of Guadalupe with interceding on his brother George's behalf during the 2000 presidential election.

Antonin Scalia as the Virgin of Guadalupe?

This really has gone too far...

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 2:12PM - Link

Why is it that criticism of women in public life sooner or later sinks to this kind of crap? During the height of the John Bolton furor, a man whom I would guess posters here dislike more than Barbara Bush, the posts weren't nearly as personally venomous.

Posted by ouch


Hey, don't look at me, I'm an equal opportunity insulter. Truthfully I never saw it as a gender issue, but come to think of it, Barbara's balls ARE a bit larger than Bolton's. Damn, that plays hell with MY feeble attempt at selectively chauvinistic insult. Maybe, if she'd just shave occassionally, I could see things in a different light.

Posted by JC, Dec 02 2005, 2:18PM - Link

It is interesting to watch as the true character of GW Bush is revealed to the public. A product of the imagemakers unmasked.

This man never should have become president. The R's have learned how to get an old boot elected. In Bush's case, he fit the bill...he had his dad's name, brother Jeb who could fix things in Florida, plenty of money pouring in to the party, those Rovian tricks,and the vast right-wing conspiracy finally producing results.

I suspect that Bush has never in his life taken responsibility for his failings. So he blames those around him. Bush's war becomes Cheney's war. The people who got him elected, and got him through his first term are now at fault for everything going wrong. Even his dad must be totally disgusted with him.

So he turns to his mom.

One might think that he'd realize...maybe if he'd done his own reading, and his own thinking, and listened to the right people; if he'd actually been a leader...he wouldn't need to blame others now.

Posted by DAS, Dec 02 2005, 2:38PM - Link

But the whole family is pretty f*cked-up. Too bad the country's attention never wanders back to that other son, Neil, who is yet another ass. Why don't they trot that daughter Dot out more? Could it be she is somehow worse on camera than the boys? - jaye

Don't forget about Marvin -- he's yet another "interesting" one.

Actually my understanding is that the daughter is the only decent member of the whole lot of them. Maybe that is why they never bring her out -- she'll make the rest of them look even worse by contrast.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 3:04PM - Link

Well, hmmmmm, a Navy pilot that gets shot down, floats alone in the ocean until he is rescued, with a son that criminally shirked his Texas Air National Guard duties.

Think they might have some differences????

When I consider my kid's occasional screw ups and failures, I can't help but ponder what it would be like to have a kid that loused up TWO WHOLE COUNTRIES, killing a couple hundred thousand people in the process. Now THATS a screw up!

Posted by Sonic Nurse, Dec 02 2005, 3:07PM - Link

I don't mean to come off as an asshole, but if there is a link to this alleged piece about Babs and her crotch droppings, someone please provide it. Otherwise, it is just another blogger blogging.

Thanks.

Posted by ron, Dec 02 2005, 3:47PM - Link


I cannot believe so many of you - let alone Steve Clemons - are buying into this charade. Get this and get it good.

BUSH KNEW. EVERYTHING. ALL ALONG.

He was not duped. He was and is "in on it" and approved of all of the Cheney Cabal's actions, enthusiastically in fact. He thought it would (as it has) increase the wealth and power of the family. Now that things are not going so well the Bush family soldiers are being lined up for sacrifice if necessary to save Jr.

Steve I am really surprised that you are helping promote this propaganda ploy to blame it all on Cheney and allow this popycock about the innocent idiot to go unchallenged. You are being used.

Posted by Caring One, Dec 02 2005, 3:47PM - Link

I'm sorry to see so many mean things said about Barbara Bush who deserves our pity. How would you feel if half the country thought you were the mother of four SOB's?

Posted by Trittydi, Dec 02 2005, 3:53PM - Link

"I'm no fan of Barbara Bush but as the insults here became increasingly vulgar, and directed at her appearance and sexual attractiveness (or not), as a woman I feel an urge to shout enough already."

There have been a few comments on Queen B's personal appearance, but for the most part, people here have been focusing their comments on her personality, her reputation as a nasty bitch, and the horrors her children have inflicted on the rest of us.

If it is unfair to refer to the fact that she gave birth to these monsters, and had a personal hand in shaping their personal values - then she has no business going into the public arena. She could stay at home and shut up.

But if she's out there as the President's mom - making public statements - she's fair game.

Posted by Eyeball Kid, Dec 02 2005, 3:53PM - Link

"...For a majority of Americans he is starting to sound and look and act like a far bigger wimp than his father ever was. He has been dismissed to the back of the class to carve his initials in a desk...

Posted by: koreyel at December 1, 2005 05:59 PM"

Koreyel, I'd be with you on your assessment if it weren't for the fact that Bush is killing innocent people as we speak. And he hasn't the fortitude or the personality to stop the killing. He's not only causing the killing of US soldiers who joined the Armed Forces while trusting the lies of Bush's government, but he's also killing countless thousands of Iraqi civilians, who are now viewed as "terrorists", even though they are singularly interested in getting the US out of their country.

So by indicating that Bush is now an irrelevant force in the body politic, you might be denying that Bush is a very relevant and destructive force to those who are engaged in violence because of his decisions.

This is a horrifying time in our history. Bush doesn't need denigration. He needs prosecution.

As for that crazy delusional hag Barbara, she can go to hell with her "I want to save my son" crap. If she had any conscience, she would have disowned Georgie a long time ago and would be leading any movement to have him removed from office. She would only come to the conclusion that her president has the backbone of a jellyfish and is nearly destroying the Constitution by daily promotions of his good ole boy universe. It's either that or George is saturated with evil spirits and has rendered his soul to all of them. Either way, we're screwed.

Posted by Stephen Kriz, Dec 02 2005, 3:59PM - Link

Of course, Poppy cheated on Babs for years with Jennifer Fitzgerald, even taking Fitzgerald to China with him as the royal concubine, in 1976, when he was envoy to China. Babs had to stay home with her miscreant sons, which caused her to go white and become a cold, unloving harpie and caused the boys to be dysfunctional, Oedipal-inflicted perverts.

Maybe this dysfunctional family should take all of their blood money, hole up at Kennebunkport and inbreed until they spawn something that resembles a normal, well-adjusted human being.

Posted by Trittydi, Dec 02 2005, 4:14PM - Link

"Maybe this dysfunctional family should take all of their blood money, hole up at Kennebunkport and inbreed until they spawn something that resembles a normal, well-adjusted human being."

And would they recognize it if they did? See? Not going to happen. They'll hole up though - and they'll need a private army for protection from all the people they've steamrolled over in their evil path.

I just hope that the Kennebunkport fortress is one of the first things to go as global warming effects expand. I imagine this will be exacerbated by the increasing weight of the family's ethical and moral black hole until the whole place breaks off and falls into the sea with giant waves breaking over them as they disappear forever.

That or they'll flee to South America.

Posted by HateBothParties, Dec 02 2005, 4:15PM - Link

Actually, George H.W. Bush's *heroic* record in WW II has been called into question. I would say "Google it" but once I saw my house on a Google map I stay as far away from Google as possible. So use alta vista.

In a nutshell, it's alleged that GHW Bush let his crew go down with the plane while saving himself. But at least G HW showed up for the war ;-)

In terms of Jeb, I very courageously read FreeRepublic and Lucianne.com each day and there's pretty much no way the fundie base is going to elect a Catholic, even if he's a Catholic in name only, because Catholics don't believe in supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinians, which must be done in order to make Christ return and *rapture* them up.

Jeb and Consuela, or whatever his wife's name is, are alleged to have not visited their daughter in rehab for more than 15 minutes at a time. I can't attest to that but it would be in keeping with the Bush family's *character* or lack thereof.

After all, immediately after that Bush daughter died at a young age of cancer Babs was out playing golf.

I would suggest everyone read Kevin Phillips book "American Dynasty" about the Bush family -- they really aim to be just that.

BTW: Marvin Bush and his shennanigans (sp?) are America's best kept secret. He was on the board of the company that was in charge of security at Dulles and the WTC on 9/11, along with a bunch of Kuwaitis.

Lastly, I was recovering from a hospital stay in 2002 and became addicted to AOL message boards. I was IMed by a woman on one of the political boards who claimed to have information on Bush's girlfriend's abortion. She sent me her number and her story checked out as much as I could verify it. She knew all about Dumbya and Laura as she'd gone to Jr. High with them (San Jacinto if I remember correctly), and Midlands at that point was small.

She said that Babs paid for the abortion and it happened before Rove Vs. Wade so was illegal. Imagine if that abortion story had gotten out? The Freepers would have Freeped and more than a hundred thousand people would still be alive. Maybe.

Hitlery Clinton is on the warpath as well, so who knows how bad it's going to get before America wakes up, by which I mean the *progressives* to the fact that the Democrats are almost equally as culpable for this mess.

Posted by Trittydi, Dec 02 2005, 4:46PM - Link

"Hitlery Clinton"

I was sorry to see you refer to Hillary this way. While I agree with you about how useless the democrats are since none of them seem to have any backbone - and Hillary's no better than the rest of them, I would not have represented her as "evil."

regards,

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 4:56PM - Link

"Lastly, I was recovering from a hospital stay in 2002 and became addicted to AOL message boards."

Posted by HateBothParties

I wonder, did we pass cross paths???? I was known on the AOL boards as "Mo".

Posted by HateBothParties, Dec 02 2005, 5:00PM - Link

Hitlery Clinton stood recently at the Palestinian apartheid wall and said it was necessary despite that it makes Palestine the world's largest open air prison.

What exactly did the Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims have to do with the Jewish Holocaust? No one has ever answered this question and I've been asking it for years. Why wasn't Israel put into Germany -- why are Arabs paying for Germans' mistakes? And for this our kids and innocents in the Middle East are dying --= 10 marines today alone.

Given her ambition, Hitlery most probably would have made that same comment at Auschwitz/Birkenau. And I've been to both.

What we have paid for in monetary terms for Israel's genocide of the Palestinians is a disgrace. And we pay in blood because the architects of the Iraq war (Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle, Libby, Wurmser, Abrams, etc.) have long-standing ties to Israel which they don't even bother to hide.

Under Bill Clinton, anywhere from 500,000 to 1.5 million Iraqis died because of UN sanctions pushed for by the US and UK.

In Rwanda, Bill and Mad Albright refused to allow the Canadian commander of UN forces to increase troop size to 2000, none of whom would be American. So not only did people die in Rwanda in the millions, but they died in the surrounding countries as well and continue to die.

Bubba the *First Black President* my a*s. The Clintons are new to the Die-Nasty game while the Bush family has had generations to master it but the Clintons learned fast. Hitlery will sell us out faster than you can say "Syria" to keep power, and millions may well die.

Time for another revolution, one that involves throwing out old idols and THINKING for oneself.

Posted by Romelee, Dec 02 2005, 5:47PM - Link

They all to blame And someday the people will look back and say we should have not suppoted them and getting the country in such a mess .and also being haied the world over.

Posted by Michael Mckinney, Dec 02 2005, 6:51PM - Link

Hey Now, One thing I've learned in life is never attack a person's Mother. It would be something to hear Dubya tell his Mom how things went wrong.
I saw her at those Texas games. She looked like George Washington. If I had made a big mess I'd be too ashamed to ask Mom to help me clean it up!
One Love

Posted by NickDanger, Dec 02 2005, 6:53PM - Link

I have a friend who worked at the White House from 1986 to 2001 and he told me the most frightening person he met there was Barbara Bush--by far.

Posted by CtGlav, Dec 02 2005, 8:39PM - Link

Ouch was right - The descent into trash talking does not belong on this site, IMO. Self policing is required.

"I'm no fan of Barbara Bush but as the insults here became increasingly vulgar, and directed at her appearance and sexual attractiveness (or not), as a woman I feel an urge to shout enough already. Why is it that criticism of women in public life sooner or later sinks to this kind of crap? During the height of the John Bolton furor...the posts weren't nearly as personally venomous. [ouch Dec 2, 2005 1:18 PM]

Posted by koreyel, Dec 02 2005, 9:26PM - Link

One man's trash talking is another man's satire.

In other words: It is mostly word play.

Trust me, if Barbara Bush was drowning, with the finger of one bejeweled hand extended above the sea imploring for help, most of us would gladly risk our lives to seize that hand... strip it of its finery, and let the old gal sink like a heavy basset hound.

Trust me.

Or better yet: Trust my faith in satire.

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 02 2005, 10:58PM - Link

"Trust me, if Barbara Bush was drowning, with the finger of one bejeweled hand extended above the sea imploring for help,....."

Posted by koreyel

Jeeez....I had just had a vision of a boatload of democrats screaming "GAFF....GAFF!

Posted by Steve Clemons, Dec 03 2005, 8:18AM - Link

Dear Posters:

Many of you have become great friends of this blog -- debating real issues. Some of you are on the far right, some the far left, some in the middle. . .but there seem to be some new posters who do not understand the norms of this comment section.

I have much better things to do with my time than police this comment board for highly vulgar and completely inappropriate commentary. If you don't like Barbara Bush, feel free to make your case -- but if you get profane -- your post won't survive. I have no patience for that kind of commentary -- and that is NOT what this blog is about. So stop with the posts that go beyond reasoned commentary.

Folks, if you see a comment post that engages in an ad hominem attack of someone on here -- or gets inappropriately vulgar -- send me a note as to the time of the post, and I will take action.

Write to me at steve@thewashingtonnote.com.

Thanks,

Steve Clemons

Posted by Gardner, Dec 03 2005, 12:20PM - Link

I agree with Garbo -- it's Jeb that Barb's thinking of. Ever notice how when Shrub makes a point he then ducks his head between his shoulders? My theory is that, growing up, every time he said something, Barbara hit him in the back of the head and said, "Shut up, George." She's admitted on TV that she would never have guessed George would be elected President. Yeah, I know, I know, he wasn't exactly elected, but nevertheless...
Barbara's appearance as a white-haired grandmotherly type has always been in contrast with the truth. She's mean-spirited and out of touch with reality. Remember how she thought that "...this could work out well..." for the Katrina refugees at the Houston Astrodome? Except for 41, I wish the whole clan would just go away.

Posted by joe in oklahoma, Dec 03 2005, 12:36PM - Link

Babs is merely the face you see....
the work is being done by 41 (George the First)

Posted by Pissed Off American, Dec 03 2005, 1:05PM - Link

I have much better things to do with my time than police this comment board for highly vulgar and completely inappropriate commentary. If you don't like Barbara Bush, feel free to make your case -- but if you get profane -- your post won't survive. I have no patience for that kind of commentary -- and that is NOT what this blog is about. So stop with the posts that go beyond reasoned commentary.

Posted by Steve Clemons


As a long time poster and participant at blogs and message boards, I can assure you that the topic, and the manner it is presented, have a lot to do with the quality of the responses. I know it wasn't intentional on Clemon's part, but this topic INVITED ribald comments and invective. How does one SERIOUSLY debate the ramifications of a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE'S mother coming to the rescue of her little boy??? Good lord, could many of us have invisioned such a scenario prior to Monkey Boy's arrival at the White House??? Personally,I found one or two of the comments unthoughtfully vulgar, but for the most part ENJOYED the viciously satirical attacks on the woman. Gads, she raised the idiot wonder, as well as four other "colorful" members of the Bush managerie. Bank fraud, AWOL, romping with whores in Taiwan, election fraud..yadayadayada. What a crew! They BEG insult.

Posted by SmirkS, Dec 03 2005, 2:06PM - Link

great post.

i feel no sympathy for the bush clan. they have an empire based on lies and war-profiteering. screw 'em. RICO. give us back our money, bitch.


thank you.

Posted by opit, Dec 03 2005, 4:00PM - Link

The woman sounds like a very familiar type (unfortunately). No wonder John Bolton fits right in.

Posted by S Brennan, Dec 03 2005, 4:53PM - Link

"Hey Now, One thing I've learned in life is never attack a person's Mother." - Posted by Michael Mckinney

Mike, I'd agree with you, but for one thing, she isn't just the Bush the 2nd's mother, she is Bush the1st's wife. In the '70's the press and Republican Party went after Jimmy Carter's wife with a vengeance, in 1981, they both parties, the press and the Republican Party called for a halt in the outrage and that was pretty much respected until 1993, when the press and Republican Party went after Bill Clinton's wife with a vengeance then in 2001, they both parties, the press and the Republican Party called for a halt in the outrage....

Steve Clemons has point, but when he makes it, he should put in the historical context above.

And Steve,

I've had my posts deleted for taking umbrage at people hurling religious and sexual orientation insults, I never used foul language, but rather implied that the comments of fighting nature were cowardly.

To be clear Steve,

Go into a Southside bar in Chicago and use the "n" word and you'll wind up a bloody pile of bones, which is your just desert. If you would not say it front of somebody it doesn't belong in a public forum. Denigrating Catholics, gays, Jews is the same to me...you should have deleted the original defamation, before deleting the response, instead you left the defamation intact.

That is why I hardly post anymore, I don't mind rules, I just want them democratically applied.

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Posted by Steve Clemons, Dec 03 2005, 5:32PM - Link

Steve -- I'm about to board a plane. I don't believe I've ever deleted a post from you. I value your posts -- and I just checked. You have a ton of comments posted throughout this blog. So, perhaps something accidental happened -- but to be clear, I'm not able to review every comment on this site. I read as much as I can. If people go into the gutter, that's generally ok to a point, but if they go worse than that -- I will zap the comments off.

So, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your comments, but I'm not about to get into a ridiculous game of justifying my methodology of whose posts get cut and whose don't. I raaaaarrreeeely censor anything on this site -- but if it's disgusting, it goes. That's it. My rules; and only my rules.

All the best to you,

Steve Clemons

Posted by S Brennan, Dec 03 2005, 6:38PM - Link

Steve,

I don't have my reply anymore, but it was response to, R. M. stating that Cathlics follow the Anti-Christ. Just to jog your memory, I believe he spiced it up with some anti-gay stuff as well.

I haven't been Cathloc for 30 plus years, but I still remember, that Anti-Christ bit was use by those who felt Cathlocs, Jews, African Americans...Gays could not be good Americans.

Not once did I use an obscenity, rather I welcomed him to say that stuff to my face.

Which matches what I said above that using words "of [a] fighting nature were cowardly." in the context of this forum...and I stand by that statement.

I have the greatest respect for you Steve, but it really ticked me off.

S Brennan

Posted by Sidewalk Bob, Dec 03 2005, 9:12PM - Link

Think some folks is missin' the larger point here that while folks is tryin' to out-do others on just what a dummie Bush is, his corporate sponsors have their hands in yer pockets???

Posted by shannon, Dec 04 2005, 3:59AM - Link

I got the Quaker Oats box and a one dollar bill, put them side by side, and I concluded BeelzaBabs looks like the one dollar bill guy. The Quaker Oats guy is too friendly and healthy looking and too young as well........

My wicked step mother knew her and once remarked that Barbara is a "good old gal", to which I replyed, you mean an "old cow", she was not pleased that I didn't agree that there was something good about her. That was a long time ago, I think she is even more nasty now.

Posted by purvisames, Dec 04 2005, 7:10AM - Link

If anyone actually thinks that mommy is going to save Boy George's ass, they better get their head out of their own.

Posted by Steve Clemons, Dec 04 2005, 2:25PM - Link

Note to Steve Brennan: I honestly don't have any recollection removing a note like that. There have been times when there was so much spam from commercial posters (and pornographic) that I had to spend many hours deleting these one by one -- by the thousands. That might have been the reason, because unless you engaged in some kind of outrageous ad hominem attack, I rarely remove a post -- even when they attack me.

So, if you want to repost, let me know.

But please know that I value your views and contributions,

Steve Clemons

Posted by deerstar, Dec 05 2005, 12:38PM - Link

As long as she is cleaning house maybe they can redo the December cover of the New Yorker with Barb Bush's face replacing her son's for January.

Posted by Freedom, Dec 05 2005, 11:18PM - Link

I don't know ... If Barbara Bush is going to pick up a fight with those "evil-doers" who are bringing her son down, this might turn into an asymmetric war between her on one side and the Neocons (Cheney Cabal) on the other side. Whatever we may think of her, I doubt that Barbara Bush can be lumped with them. She may have welcomed their role in bringing her son to the presidency ... but ideologically a neocon? I don't think so.

If it does turn into an encounter between her and "them", it will in effect be a fight between her and Lynne Cheney ... the "Mother of All Neocons". Still asymmetric since Lynne Cheney comes not alone. She will have the whole gang of neocons at the American Enterprise Institute behind her, not to mention "Machiavelli"-Ledeen himself! I am afraid that Barbara Bush could be toast!

Posted by sglover, Dec 06 2005, 2:03PM - Link

Maybe the bitch should instead reflect on the consequences of bad parenting. That entire family needs to be removed from American public life.

Posted by kay miles, Dec 06 2005, 11:33PM - Link

You'll like this, at least I think. I sure got a kick out of it=====

Posted by taka, Dec 06 2005, 11:39PM - Link

A while back George Bush was at some rally for Jeb, and in introducting Jeb to the audience he made a refernce to how he'd win the next election with Cheney at his side, the best decision he could have made despite the fact that 'Mother' was against it. "Mother isn't always right' George said, very pointedly.

I thought the comments were wildly inappropriate and very odd, but gave an insight into what was happening within the Bush family circles. Now this report appears and suddenly the circle is closed. Babs never liked Cheney - and Momma is always right, isnt' she?

Posted by allat, Dec 07 2005, 3:53PM - Link

Oh, you rezlly believe that Ma Bush and Cheney are on different sides?

Have I got a bridge to sell ya!

This little "quarrel" between those two werewolfs is just for show. To make We, The People, believe there are two sides, when in fact, they are in bed together. One and the same - the Elite, "tptb." The think we are still ignorant "peasants"- you see, to take our attention from the REAL issues.

So obvious.

Posted by End Of The Empire, Dec 07 2005, 9:14PM - Link

I thought you'd find the following item interesting:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051207/that_endofempire_feeling.php

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