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Tucker Carlson Bashes Gay Guy (or Maybe He Was Bi?) in Bathroom

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I will avoid today discussion of the reasons why so many men chose to look for sex partners in public bathrooms, gyms, and the like over the last few decades.  Most engaged in this kind of sex would probably have preferred socially supported venues for relationship and sexual development -- in the clubs, restaurants, public places galore that the heterosexual world has to walk together, to talk, to hug, to kiss, and to 'do it.'

Andrew Sullivan has much better dexterity with this subject than I do -- but it is disgusting that while so many are now cringing at the thought of gay man having tearoom sex that they are at the same time so obsessive about trying to stop same sex marriage between committed individuals.

Tucker Carlson brought this home in an interview he did yesterday in which he got "bothered" in a public restroom when he was in high school and then got a buddy and went back to beat up the guy before he was arrested.  To be fair to Carlson, we haven't yet heard whether the "botherer" grabbed Tucker's crotch or just tapped his foot under the stall. 

But Carlson's comment that he chose to beat up the trespasser "after the fact" in a vigilante action says much.

This from Media Matters:

On the August 28 edition of MSBNC Live, hosted by MSNBC general manager Dan Abrams, Tucker Carlson, host of MSNBC's Tucker, asserted, "Having sex in a public men's room is outrageous.

It's also really common. I've been bothered in men's rooms." Carlson continued, "I've been bothered in Georgetown Park," in Washington, D.C., "when I was in high school."

When Abrams asked how Carlson responded to being "bothered," Carlson asserted, "I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head, actually."

Read the full transcript (or watch the video clip) which is pretty disgusting, not just because Tucker Carlson, self-described as "the least anti-gay right-winger you'll ever meet", admits to beating up someone trolling for sex in a public bathroom -- but because Dan Abrams and Joe Scarborough just laugh.

Someone should go look for evidence of the arrest that Tucker Carlson mentions.

-- Steve Clemons

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Reader Comments (13) - post a comment

Posted by pjbacfl, Aug 29 2007, 7:20PM - Link

What, praytell, is "tearoom sex?"

Posted by Steve Clemons, Aug 29 2007, 7:29PM - Link

pjbacfl -- It's a term I picked up I think when I read Joe Orton's biography -- but that's as far as I'll go.

best, Steve Clemons

Posted by Bob L., Aug 29 2007, 7:45PM - Link

I saw this live on MSNBC last night.

I laughed along with Abrams and Scarborough.

The thought of a high-school aged Tucker Carlson returning to a public bathroom to give some pervert his comeuppance is patently absurd. No chance it actually happened.

I mean, look at the guy. He's badass! He must have been a KILLER in high school. Ha!

Posted by selise, Aug 29 2007, 7:49PM - Link

tucker should get a clue - how would he feel if women started beating up on all the straight guys who ever made an unwelcome pass?

and it sure didn't sound like tucker was assaulted... if he was he could have sworn out a complaint.

but the thing that really bothers me, is that while i could forgive a highschool kid reacting badly (given the homophobic culture we have been living in), i can not forgive tucker laughing about his experience of revenge violence now.

i'd like to see tucker fired and whoever else was laughing (it soundn't like tucker had company) have to make a sincere and abject apology to keep their job.

tucker is just sick, sick, sick.

Posted by TonyForesta, Aug 29 2007, 8:22PM - Link

The Bush government is intent on attacking Iran, maybe with nukes, America is bein ruthlessly redefined, and reengineered from within, Iraq is a catastophic bloody, costly, nightmare, Afghanistan is a forgotten failure wherein our real enemies safely entrenched in their redoubts across the borders in the Peshawar are reconstituting, and planniing, training for, financing, and commanding and controlling the sequel to 9/11 - the world is on fire, - and you are focusing on Tucker Carlson?

Moveon please!!!!

"Is there no balm in Gilead?"

Posted by Disgusted, Aug 29 2007, 10:09PM - Link

After hearing all this, I'll never let the male children in my life go into a restroom alone. I am a supporter of gay rights, but when men make untoward advances on other men, well, they should get their heads slammed.

I just remember that line from the movie"Airplane" which was, "Ever seen a grown man naked?"

Consenting adults are fine, children are a big old NO.

Posted by ..., Aug 29 2007, 11:37PM - Link

sounds like paranoid more then disgusted..

Posted by skin, Aug 30 2007, 1:23AM - Link

Grabbing a kid in a bathroom? That's completely out of line. It's scary and disgusting. How many people would applaud if young, smart, assertive woman was grabbed by a creepy older man and the woman was able to restrain him by hitting his head against a stall? Plenty. She would be a hero. This isn't a gay issue, this is a sexual assault in a bathroom issue. Although I do not care for Mr. Carlson or his views, it is a good thing he was able to hand that predator over to the police and completely fine to be proud of himself and even laugh about it now.

Posted by Carroll, Aug 30 2007, 2:56PM - Link

Well, just look....how some of the media has already devolved the whole Craig story into a "what gays do thing"...instead of the real point about Craig and his hypocritical life in politics.

So now the sheeple have gone from criticism of a lying, deceiving, two faced politican to panic about sexual bathroom advances.

Trust the pundits like Tucker to take the lowest possible road...no doubt it helps their ratings....some of the public being what they are.

Posted by PissedOffAmerican, Aug 30 2007, 9:12PM - Link

Damnit, everytime I go into a public bathroom, all I get is bad graffiti and crabs.

Posted by Amare, Sep 02 2007, 6:36AM - Link

One word: overcompensation.

Posted by rolex watch, May 21 2009, 10:09AM - Link

but the thing that really bothers me, is that while i could forgive a highschool kid reacting badly (given the homophobic culture we have been living in), i can not forgive tucker laughing about his experience of revenge violence now.

Posted by luxury watches, May 21 2009, 10:14AM - Link

I will avoid today discussion of the reasons why so many men chose to look for sex partners in public bathrooms, gyms, and the like over the last few decades. Most engaged in this kind of sex would probably have preferred socially supported venues for relationship and sexual development -- in the clubs, restaurants, public places galore that the heterosexual world has to walk together, to talk, to hug, to kiss, and to 'do it.'

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