Steve Clemons >"...What a tangled web."

Yea well some folks like to play more than one side in "The Great Games"

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!" - Sir Walter Scott

Amazing. Off topic, but......

I subscribe to a number of ultra-conservative newsletters, (Gee, should I have admitted that? This clown MarkL will probably acuse me of being a neo-con now.).

I must got an email plugging for a CD called "Islam: What the West Needs to Know."

So, I'm browsing the usual fear mongering about the Koran that we all have read a thousand times since 9/11, and I came across the following statement....

"How Islam, unlike Christianity, flourished and spread primarily through conquest, not peaceful evangelism"

Now, I gotta ask you, does history tell us Christianity spread through "peaceful evangelism"?

What Twilight Zone are these people living in, anyway? Are there actually people out there that believe this kind of pure unmitigated horseshit?

http://tinyurl.com/23qt8a

And really, while pondering outrageous lies and right wing CRAP, check this one out....

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/27566.html

If I could find an email address for this lying bitch I'd send her a dose of POA. What type of scum purposely pens lies?

POA rhetorically, (at least I think so), asked: "What type of scum purposely pens lies?'

That's easy. These days its "Skum Skum! The Ultimate Skum! The Penultimate Skum! Skum Extraordinaire!"

(They're mostly toiling for the MSM as overpaid pundits and op-ed columnists, though many, many are employed by a cornucopia of right whing think tanks, themselves designed, assembled and programmed to suck every last breath of independence from every last consumer.

Because, of course, there are no more citizens - only consumers.)

I believe the CAP event is next Wednesday, September 5.

Good question!...why ARE freaks like Woolsey given a platform? I don't understand it.

I wish some patriot spooks would take my advice and whack this guy (and some others)...that is the only way evidently we will get rid of them. It will be too late if they get us into Iran...and that is definitely where they are headed.

Yoo hoo CIA, FBI, Marines, anyone... are you listening? Do something.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/27566.html

If I could find an email address for this lying bitch I'd send her a dose of POA. What type of scum purposely pens lies?

Posted by PissedOffAmerican at August 28, 2007 11:03 PM
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Interesting....especially because I read soemthing by this same woman several years ago right after the Iraq invasion...I don't remember what site, I was doing a lot of surfing looking for reliable sources for various things and came across a article by her. It was much worse than this one, shocking really, she was bashing the US and really putting down Americans and basically telling Americans to go to hell because we dont' understand how evil Arabs are and how they are going to destroy the jews if the US doesn't destroy them first. She's a bad one, a real hate monger.

Then I saw the yesterday over at Daniels Levy's blog, who is an Israeli, although in the peace camp side, that another hate monger, Melaine Phillips had written a screed in the London paper calling him a self hating jews and an idiot for suggesting there could be peace Pal-Isr.

Regarding Woolsey..

"... it brings to mind a recent post by Matt Yglesias at The Atlantic wherein he complains that the crackpots (neocon variety) are being mainstreamed by ostensibly "liberal" Washington think-tanks:
"The crux of the matter is that we have here in Washington, D.C., a certain number of institutions working in the national security sphere that are essentially crackpot operations – AEI, The Weekly Standard, the Project for a New American Century, and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies come to mind. Now one can argue 'till the cows come home whether or not it should have been clear in August 2002 that these were crackpot operations, but over the past five years they've demonstrated themselves to indubitably be crackpot institutions."

The Democrats' failure to defund the Iraq occupation has led, inexorably, to the likelihood of a border "incident" with Iran that will – tragically, and almost inevitably – result in a conflict that will draw in every country in the Middle East, roiling the Muslim world. The compromises, the craven capitulations, the excuse-making for Democrats whose hearts were and are supposedly in the right place but who succumbed, in the end, to the lure of pork over principle, have brought us to this – to the prospect of yet another war, albeit a much bigger and potentially more destructive one.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11521

http://amconmag.com/2007/2007_08_27/article1.html

The Christian Zionist

"The image of thousands of conservative Christians from the heartland waving the flags of a foreign nation would have astounded anyone 50 years ago—except maybe George Orwell.

In an essay on nationalism, he criticized G.K. Chesterton, the English writer, for romanticizing Latin countries, particularly France, on account of his Catholicism. Orwell called this “transferred nationalism” and argued that fixing upon another country allows one “to be much more nationalistic—more vulgar, more silly, more malignant, more dishonest—that he could ever be on behalf of his native country, or any unit of which he had real knowledge.”

But Chesterton’s affinity for France was sentimental—and harmless. CUFI knits theology and politics to powerful effect: Christian Zionists support Israel because God commands them to do so. "

Images of rabbis teaching in Israel flash across giant screens, as the crowd starts to rock and wave, lifting their voices, “Sing Us a Song of Zion.” A young man dressed as an IDF soldier appears on the stage. He appears to be hurt and remains on his knees. The music begins to fade. Another young man dressed as an American soldier comes over, lifts up his Israeli counterpart, and salutes him. The hall fills with the sound of the electronic keyboard and the crowd punctures the night air with waving palms and a smattering of “hallelujahs.” Some raise tear-streaked faces, others bow their heads in ecstatic prayer, all are resolute and ready for battle. They sing as the music lifts them higher: “Great is the army that carries out His Word.”

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The christian zionist and the Israeli zionist are destroying this country.

And we are watching it happen.

Crazy doesn't begin to describe these people.

Town hall - A hostile audience tells the Washington Democrat, "You're not representing us"

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

ALLAN BRETTMAN and JEFF MAPES
The Oregonian Staff

VANCOUVER -- Hundreds at a raucous and hostile town hall Monday night let U.S. Rep. Brian Baird know that they disapprove of his support for the troop surge in Iraq. Many suggested the Vancouver Democrat is not representing the will of his district.

Baird said before the meeting that he expected a negative reception. And the crowd fulfilled those expectations.

The audience often interrupted Baird as he tried to calmly explain his decision to support a beefed-up presence of U.S. troops in the war-torn country. He said the United States has a moral obligation to help Iraq rebuild itself.

"We don't care what your convictions are," said Jan Lustig of Vancouver. "You're here to represent us."

Lustig added, "You're not representing us with this stance."

To that, Baird quietly replied, "I understand."
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This, thankfully, is happening all over the country.

But Baird doesn't really understand...he doesn't understand that eventually he will get more than just jeers and shouts.

If and when we attack Iran we will get to that Second American Revolution we have needed for so long.

Take names.

Burn Washington to the Ground and Start Over

When in the Course of Human Events.......

"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --
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It's time, past time. How long do we want to wait..till after Iran, till the next one after that? Till Homeland security makes the KBG and the Third Reich look good?
When is enough enough?
This adm is illegitimate, this congress is illegitimate, our whole government is now illegitimate.

"Why are folks letting Woolsey balance out the politics?"

Because he is one of their guys, welded at the fist one might say, making the rounds, getting out the word, pumping up the war balloon one huff at a time.

Here we have these pieces of shit in this administration getting away with everything from perjury to treason......

yet....

http://dcist.com/2007/08/28/karl_rove_wants.php

August 28, 2007

Karl Rove Wants American Ass

This one has been covered already by a few of our fellow bloggers, but it's almost too good to pass up.

Yesterday Wonkette reported that departing White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove was looking to get even with some students at American University who had the tenacity to show him their asses. See, back in April Rove gave a speech before the university's College Republicans, meeting with some feisty protestors as he made his way out. Those arrested were forced into 40 hours of community service, and that was that. But now arrest warrants have been issued by the Secret Service for the mooners. From the Culture Warrior:

On Friday, Gardner and the rest of the group were notified by AU’s Dean of Students that the Secret Service has issued warrants for their arrest. Details are scarce because nobody seems to know what the fuck is going on and we couldn’t get the Dean on the phone on a Sunday, but Gardner and presumably all the others are being charged with crossing a police line and disorderly conduct.

I'm no lawyer, but isn't there a statute of limitations on this type of stuff? And does Rove really need the Secret Service to issue the arrest warrants? Aren't there more pressing threats to the president, his staff, his family and the country to attend to?

I guess Woolsey wants to add another catastrophe to this Administration achievments.

America, how I loved you. Too bad you couldn't last.

Check out "US preparing 'massive' military attack against Iran" by Larisa Alexandrovna and Muriel Kane:
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Study_US_preparing_massive_military_attack_0828.html

Do you hear any Democrats besides Kucinich raising red flags? No, they're all part of the enterprise and don't want to get blinded by a wave of hyper-patriotism before the next election.

Steve wrote:
"Woolsey's everywhere. Working hard to start a war with Iran -- and perhaps planning to make a lot of money off the conflict if things swing that way."

The multi-national banking corporations and firsters have turned this country into a perpetual war economy, right? Peace really has no chance because, well, I suppose these b*st*rds can't make legitimate big money anywhere else.

Too bad I didn't have a cousin, Lenny, or a brother-in-law, Sheldon, who already know how to line up big fed contracts supplying the war machine with upcoming essentials like Alpine Shower Gel, Brave Face Lip Defender, and the new Skin Conditioning Cloth. Safe choices, no need to feel guilty, and why, my family could start justifying the war and a new war might bring us a real bonanza!

With the right chutzpah, we could all start making money! Go forward war machine, let's start counting the cash!

Pauline: A huge war machine with a crumbling economy = Soviet Union.

God, I hate watching our country go into the dumpster.

Pauline: A huge war machine with a crumbling economy = the Soviet Union.

God, I hate watching our country go into the dumpster.