Gonzales Resigns

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A birthday gift for me? Alberto Gonzales has resigned.
The inevitable certaily does take a long time in this administration.
– Steve Clemons

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62 comments on “Gonzales Resigns

  1. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Here, I just did an experiment. Just typed David Duke into Amazon. I think/hope we’d agree that he is an anti-Semite, yes? An outright one, even. A racist even, yes?”
    “Two of his books, Jewish Supremacism and My Awakening come up followed by The International Jew by Henry Ford followed by the Culture of Critique by MacDonald. BTW, nestled between Ford and MacDonald is Edgar Steele with Defensive Racism who at least appears to be making the case for racial superiority, tho’ I’d have to dig deeper to be sure.”
    Posted by MP
    Yeah? Well gee, I just typed “MP” into Google, and up popped “MP: A Feminist Online Journal”.
    Does that mean we are now to assume you’re a feminist?

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  2. Carroll says:

    Posted by MP at August 29, 2007 06:13 PM
    >>>>>>>
    I am “hiding” behind amazon? Gawd…you are cracking up MP.
    I didn’t know amazon sold David Duke books…why in the hell would I look up David Duke books, he’s not exactly on my reading list..yuck.

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  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Now you’re hiding behind Amazon, as if Amazon made your post for you. No. You made the post. You made the recommendation. The least you can do is accept responsibility for the things you post.”
    Gads, I’m sick of this guy’s crap.

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  4. arthurdecco says:

    Carroll, did “The Transfer Agreement” written by Edwin Black, make the Amazon list of books concerned with the Israeli lobby and its self-serving effects on America? (I’m too lazy to look it up myself. LOL)
    It should have.
    It’s the historical record of American Zionists, under the long, dark shadow of Sam Cohan, who shamefully, though successfully, conspired to prop up Hitler’s 1932-33 Nazis as part of their efforts to create an Israel out of Palestine. The Zionists almost single-handedly created the conditions that assured Hitler the reins of absolute power over Germany. In 1933!!! …just when he was about to have his ass handed to him by his coalition partners!
    And we all know how that turned out, don’t we?
    Now, before the usual suspects go all postal on me for having the audacity to even mention it – read the damned book.

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  5. MP says:

    Okay, Carroll, HERE is what you SAID:
    “I tell you what MP, first you educate yourself on what is actually under discussion here.. undesirable influences on US foreign policy and corrupt politicans. Start with this amazon list:”
    First you recommend that I educate myself. Then you tell me what “is” being discussed here. Then you tell me to “start with this list.” Kevin MacDonald is on the list I should start with. the list you posted.
    Gnu?
    Now you’re hiding behind Amazon, as if Amazon made your post for you. No. You made the post. You made the recommendation. The least you can do is accept responsibility for the things you post.
    Amazon sells all sorts of things. If you think they read and scrutinize every book in their database, well… They are purveyors of all things out there. They don’t “discriiminate,” but as an individual, you should.
    Here, I just did an experiment. Just typed David Duke into Amazon. I think/hope we’d agree that he is an anti-Semite, yes? An outright one, even. A racist even, yes?
    Two of his books, Jewish Supremacism and My Awakening come up followed by The International Jew by Henry Ford followed by the Culture of Critique by MacDonald. BTW, nestled between Ford and MacDonald is Edgar Steele with Defensive Racism who at least appears to be making the case for racial superiority, tho’ I’d have to dig deeper to be sure.

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  6. Carroll says:

    I am surprised that you aren’t more concerned about the “information” you recommend…
    Posted by MP at August 29, 2007 01:29 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Bad boy, liar, liar pants on fire. LOL
    I didn’t “recommend” McDonald or “any book”, I showed you the first page of amazon’s listing for some reading choices on the subject of the Israel Lobby…..you chose McDonald.
    If you don’t like amazon’s book listings complain to them ,not me. But somehow I doubt amazon would carry or sell out right anti-semitic books.

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  7. MP says:

    Posted by Carroll at August 29, 2007 01:39 AM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No. I knew very little about Kevin MacDonald, except in passing. But since you were suggesting him, I thought I’d do a little light Googling. It was all there on the surface, easy to find.
    I am surprised that you aren’t more concerned about the “information” you recommend…

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  8. MP says:

    Posted by arthurdecco at August 28, 2007 07:54 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    I’m happy to, Arthur. It’s worth noting, however, that it was you who called me out on these threads to begin with–not with argument–but in an ad hominem and rather ugly way.

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  9. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “But you sure know a lot about him. Why is that? Is he on some anti-semite witch hunt list?”
    He does seem to have access to some sort of organized “hit list”, doesn’t he?
    Except on weekends. Thats his time off.

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  10. Carroll says:

    If I say please, and promise to stand on my head in a pink clown suit, can I watch?
    Posted by PissedOffAmerican at August 28, 2007 08:54 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>
    Heheheheheh…ROTFLMHO….yes, you can watch…if you promise not to get too excited.

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  11. Carroll says:

    Posted by MP at August 28, 2007 05:12 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don’t know Kevin MacDonald from a hole in the ground or anything about his book…I just copied the list as it was shown on the amazon page.
    But you sure know a lot about him. Why is that? Is he on some anti-semite witch hunt list?
    You need to think about something besides anti-semitism. It’s making you paranoid.

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  12. Alex says:

    Happy Birthday, Mr. Virgo. :)

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  13. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “I mostly save my criticism of Israel to Jewish sites where the readers need to hear it.”
    Bullshit.
    Show us.

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  14. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “No; I don’t try to defend the undefensible. Nor do I smear the messager. If you’re looking for that look no further than Arthur (above). POA does a pretty good job of it.
    Pretty good….????
    Whats up with that? I do a DAMNED good job.
    Git it right, will ya?

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  15. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “And as far as push back goes I have tried not to treat you as an adversary but if you want me to I can push every button you have until your head explodes.”
    If I say please, and promise to stand on my head in a pink clown suit, can I watch?

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  16. arthurdecco says:

    MP, I have about as much interest in getting into a flame war with you on Mr. Clemons’ blog as I have in stabbing a needle into my own eye.
    Besides, at this point, after reading 10 days’ worth of your postulating and pontificating, I’d equate the process of flaming with you to me challenging a blind, one-armed octogenarian to a knife fight. It wouldn’t be pretty.
    So let’s stop.
    Now.
    Hugs and kisses

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  17. Lurker says:

    I.N.N. World Report had on Marjorie Cohn, president of the National Lawyers Guild, to talk about Gonzales’ resignation. She thinks he should be prosecuted for war crimes (don’t we all?)
    Today, Democracy Now had on John Conyers to talk about the resignation. Then Conyers explained why “impeachment is off the table” saying that he had a calculator in one hand and the Constitution in the other, and that the Blue Dog Democrats would stop an impeachment. Proving yet again that the Democrats are worthless.
    Both interviews are worth checking out, but I think only Democracy Now has its interview up on its website.

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  18. MP says:

    By popular demand, More on MacDonald as if any doubt remained…
    “Writing in the Journal of Church and State, Professor George Michael noted that Macdonald’s work “has been well received by those in the racialist right, as it amounts to a theoretically sophisticated justification for anti-Semitism,” and that on the far right Macdonald “has attained a near reverential status and is generally considered beyond reproach”.[13]
    A colleague of MacDonald’s, Martin Fiebert[22] criticized MacDonald for being cited by white supremacist, anti-semitic, and neo-nazi organizations.[14] The Southern Poverty Law Center criticized MacDonald for holding panels and working with Virginia Abernethy, a self-described “white separatist” and member of the white supremacist organization Council of Conservative Citizens which describes blacks as “a retrograde species of humanity” among other things[12].
    Ed. Note: Note the appearance of the CCC…same group that our man Ron Paul is happy to consort with. But I digress…
    The SPLC also criticized MacDonald for publishing in, and receiving a 10,000 dollar grant from, the white nationalist publication The Occidental Quarterly.[12] In October 2004, he accepted the Jack London Literary Prize from The Occidental Quarterly, using the award ceremony as an occasion to argue for the need for a “white ethnostate” to maintain high racial birthrates.
    Ed. Note. Ah yes…”white ethnostate to maintain high racial birth rates.”
    In his acceptance speech, he stated, “The best way to preserve ethnic interests is to defend an ethnostate — a nation that is explicitly intended to preserve the ethnic interests of its citizens.” According to MacDonald, one of the functions of such a state would be to exclude non-European immigrants who are attracted to the state by its wealth and prosperity.
    At the conclusion of his speech, he remarked, “The alternative faced by Europeans throughout the Western world is to place themselves in a position of enormous vulnerability in which their destinies will be determined by other peoples, many of whom hold deep historically conditioned hatreds toward them. Europeans’ promotion of their own displacement is the ultimate foolishness — an historical mistake of catastrophic proportions.”[15]
    Ed. Note. Still want to recommend this guy, Carroll?
    MacDonald testified in defense of convicted holocaust denier David Irving, where he alleged that the suppression of Irving’s work was “an example of Jewish tactics for combating anti-Semitism.”[12] MacDonald said he was an “agnostic” in regards to the Holocaust. MacDonald’s testimony caused a backlash among his colleagues.
    MacDonald has an extensive following among white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Neo-nazi and former KKK leader, David Duke praises MacDonald’s work in his autobiography, where Duke explains how he came to be an anti-Semite.[12]
    Neo-Nazi Victor Gerhard wrote in a 2003 E-mail exchange that MaDonald’s The Culture of Critique “is completely true; that to rail against blacks and Hispanics without mentioning Jews is like complaining about the symptoms and not the disease.”[12]
    Ed. Note. Ah yes, Jews…”the disease.”
    When MacDonald won his award from the Occidental Quarterly, the ceremony was attended by David Duke; Don Black, the founder of white supremacist hate site Stormfront; Jamie Kelso, a senior moderator at Stormfront; and the head of the neo-Nazi National Vanguard, Kevin Alfred Strom.[12]
    In 2005, Kelso told the Occidental Report that he was meeting up with MacDonald to conduct business. MacDonald is also featured in the Stormfront member Brian Jost’s anti-immigrant film “The Line in the Sand”, where he blamed Jews for destroying the European domination of America through their liberal pro-immigration views.[12]
    MacDonald has been criticized by many of his colleagues for violating the American Psychological Association’s ethical principles, which require its members to “take all reasonable steps to prevent the misuse or misrepresentation of their work.”[12] In response, MacDonald added the following disclaimer to his website: “nothing on this website should be interpreted to suggest that I condone white racial superiority, genocide, Nazism, or Holocaust denial.”
    Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center told the Los Angeles Times, “Not since Hitler’s ‘Mein Kampf’ have anti-Semites had such a comprehensive reference guide to what’s ‘wrong with Jews.’ His work is widely advertised and touted on white supremacist websites and sold by neo-Nazi outfits like National Vanguard Books, which considers them ‘the most important books of the last 100 years.’ “[16]
    …and, believe it or not, Carroll, there’s STILL MORE!

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  19. MP says:

    Just in case you want a cite or two about Kevin B. MacDonald listed in Carroll’s reading list, here you go:
    “In a letter to Slate Magazine, Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker maintained that MacDonald’s theses were unable to pass the threshold of attention-worthiness and/or peer-approval:
    MacDonald’s ideas, as presented in summaries that would serve as a basis for further examination, do not pass that threshold, for many reasons: 1. By stating that Jews promulgate scientific hypotheses because they are Jewish, he is engaging in ad hominem argumentation that is outside the bounds of normal scientific discourse and an obvious waste of time to engage. MacDonald has already announced that I will reject his ideas because I am Jewish, so what’s the point of replying to them? 2. MacDonald’s main axioms – group selection of behavioral adaptations, and behaviorally relevant genetic cohesiveness of ethnic groups — are opposed by powerful bodies of data and theory, which Tooby, Cosmides, and many other evolutionary psychologists have written about in detail. Of course any assumption can be questioned, but there are no signs that MacDonald has taken on the burden of proof of showing that the majority view is wrong. 3. MacDonald’s various theses, even if worthy of scientifically debate individually, collectively add up to a consistently invidious portrayal of Jews, couched in value-laden, disparaging language. It is impossible to avoid the impression that this is not an ordinary scientific hypothesis. 4. The argument, as presented in the summaries, fail two basic tests of scientific credibility: a control group (in this case, other minority ethnic groups), and a comparison with alternative hypotheses (such as Thomas Sowell’s convincing analysis of “middlemen minorities” such as the Jews, presented in his magisterial study of migration, race, conquest, and culture). [17], [18]
    Reviewing Macdonald’s A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy in The Jewish Quarterly Review, Sander Gilman, professor of the Liberal Arts and Medicine at the University of Illinois in Chicago describes Macdonalds arguments about a Jewish group evolutionary strategy as “bizarre.”
    According to Gilman, “MacDonald recasts all of the hoary old myths about Jewish psychological difference and its presumed link to Jewish superior intelligence in contemporary sociobiological garb.”
    Gilman also charges that “MacDonald manipulates his sources rather shamelessly,” including Gilman’s own work. Gilman concludes that Macdonald’s book “is the most recent chapter in the continued myth-building concerning Jewish superior intelligence and achievement. It is, like the numerous earlier works, of interest in how positive images turn into the means by which Jewish difference is stressed and Jewish acculturation is shown to be pathological.[11]
    John Tooby, the founder of MacDonald’s field (evolutionary psychology), criticized MacDonald in an article for Salon.com in 2000. He wrote, “”MacDonald’s ideas — not just on Jews — violate fundamental principles of the field.”
    MacDonald has replied to Tooby, Pinker, Schatz, and Lieberman on his website.[19] In May, 2006, MacDonald responded in FrontPage Magazine to charges of anti-Semitism [20].
    Dan Kriegman, founder of the Psychoanalytic Couple and Family Institute of New England produced a 50-page analysis criticizing MacDonald’s work as “pseudo-scientific theorizing.” He wrote that MacDonald “believes his own nonsense.”
    Kriegman remarked in an email, “MacDonald is not the first person to avoid the narcissistic injury of having his ideas rejected by concluding that there was a conspiracy against him rather than becoming aware of the substandard nature [as evidenced in his trilogy] of his thinking.”[12]
    A History Professor at MacDonald’s university, Don Schwarz called MacDonald’s claims about Jewish history “unsupportable.”[citation needed]
    Philosophy Professor Warren Weinstein said that MacDonald’s work was not science at all, but “something else, masquerading as science.” “It is in the great tradition of Nazi and Stalinist science which clearly and scientifically proved that their respective insanities were objectively true and defensible,” he added.[12]
    Academic Jaff Schatz has accused MacDonald of misrepresenting and misusing his work [21].
    John Hartung, the associate editor of the Journal of Neurosurgical Anesthesiology and an associate professor of anesthesiology at the State University of New York said that MacDonald’s The Culture of Critique was “quite disturbing, seriously misinformed about evolutionary genetics, and suffering from a huge blind spot about the nature of Christianity.”[12]
    …and, believe it or not, there is more…

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  20. MP says:

    Carroll writes: “Yea, that’s right, everybody is a anti-semite.
    ME: Ah, no. You’re not. POA is not. Arthur is.
    See..?.. every time you can’t defend something like the unnecessary deaths at Israeli checkpoints in Israel or political problems of foreign influence on US policy you resort to smearing the messenger.
    ME: No; I don’t try to defend the undefensible. Nor do I smear the messager. If you’re looking for that look no further than Arthur (above). POA does a pretty good job of it.
    Let’s look at what you just did on this thread.
    ME: Fine by me.
    I made a post about the the death of a Palestine child and about Hillary’s money men who identify themselves as pro occupation and pro illegal settlements.
    You then made a comments about my posts by saying the Hillary article didn’t say what it said without being specific or offering any proof by citing quotes in the article…
    ME: You’re right. I should have been more specific. Mostly I am. Unfortunately, so many articles posted here don’t say what their posters claim, and the poster never cop to it, the task grows large. But I will say that your bottom line judgement–that Hillary won’t push for a just resolution to the I-P conflict–isn’t supported by the article. That’s my judgement. In fact, 97% of the article isn’t about Hillary at all. I can dig into the article more later, if you’re truly interested.
    “…and then tried to change the subject on the child death at the checkpoint post to talking about how many lives Israel has saved, again without any specifics and most important, no criticism of the Israeli checkpoints or sympathy for the people it affects.”
    ME: I mostly save my criticism of Israel to Jewish sites where the readers need to hear it. My question to you spoke to the lack of balance on this site on this topic. By anyone’s standard it was a question, if a pointed one, and hardly a smear. If you want, I can post the names of the Israeli children killed, and we’ll watch together for the outpouring of sympathy for those kids.
    When I make a post I am dictating the subject. You get to respond to my subject, you don’t get to change it. You offered no push back, you made a febble effort to change the subject and when I repsonded by bring you back to the subject by suggesting some books to read you then responded with the anti-semite slur.
    ME: Sorry. You don’t get to dictate how I respond to you or anyone else. Suggesting balance isn’t changing the subject. Saying that your article doesn’t support your judgement isn’t changing the subject: It’s questioning your assertion. As to anti-Semitism, Kevin McDonald is most definitely one.
    And I don’t threaten people, but if I ever do you will know it, it will be unmistakable and not a just a humorous blow off. And as far as push back goes I have tried not to treat you as an adversary but if you want me to I can push every button you have until your head explodes.
    ME: “Push back” is only a mild form of adversarial argument. I was asking for balance (a) and (b) questioning your assessment of the article you posted. As to my head “exploding,” that certainly SOUNDS like a threat, at least a veiled one, and it isn’t the first one. In my book, Carroll, you’ve made many, many outrageous statements–and mostly I let them go.

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  21. MP says:

    Posted by arthurdecco at August 28, 2007 07:01 AM
    No, Arthur, you ought to reprint your defense of Ted Pike. You remember that one, dontcha? Where you argued that Ted was ruining anti-Semitism for everyone by mixing it with religion?
    If it weren’t for the religious flakes like Ted, anti-Semitism might become respectable again…or so you say.

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  22. Mstessyrue says:

    A reluctant resignation from Gonzales is the sign of Americans’ strong voice of their disapproval towards the Bush administration. It is no surprise to anyone that our president and his administration have stirred and cause scandals within White House and hid truth from the American public. Similar to the dealings with the war in Iraq, this administration has been feeding lies to the public. Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world. According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty. However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq. It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world.

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  23. Carroll says:

    Posted by MP at August 27, 2007 11:43 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yea, that’s right, everybody is a anti-semite.
    See..?.. every time you can’t defend something like the unnecessary deaths at Israeli checkpoints in Israel or political problems of foreign influence on US policy you resort to smearing the messenger.
    Let’s look at what you just did on this thread.
    I made a post about the the death of a Palestine child and about Hillary’s money men who identify themselves as pro occupation and pro illegal settlements.
    You then made a comments about my posts by saying the Hillary article didn’t say what it said without being specific or offering any proof by citing quotes in the article and then tried to change the subject on the child death at the checkpoint post to talking about how many lives Israel has saved, again without any specifics and most important, no criticism of the Israeli checkpoints or sympathy for the people it affects.
    When I make a post I am dictating the subject. You get to respond to my subject, you don’t get to change it. You offered no push back, you made a febble effort to change the subject and when I repsonded by bring you back to the subject by suggesting some books to read you then responded with the anti-semite slur.
    And I don’t threaten people, but if I ever do you will know it, it will be unmistakable and not a just a humorous blow off. And as far as push back goes I have tried not to treat you as an adversary but if you want me to I can push every button you have until your head explodes.

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  24. arthurdecco says:

    MP said: “You’re starting to sound like Decco, who really is an anti-Semite, but just doesn’t it know it yet.”
    You have confused my absolute and unconditional loathing for Zionist apologists, liars and dissemblers like you for anti-Semitism, MP. I suppose it’s time to re-post my earlier response to your previous venality. It will save time and besides, it bears repeating, you shameless little man:
    “MP,
    When it comes to obscuring the real motivations and actions of the Zionists, Israeli-firsters, and/or Neo-Cons who seem hell-bent on destroying America, no one commenting on this site matches the artless sophistry you bring to the discussions. Surely you realize you’re convincing no one. Your arguments on this subject are puerile and self-serving, limited, in a large part, by your hubris, conceit and tribalism.
    Tell me – do you actually believe in the nonsense you continuously spread here – the back-flips in logic – the willful ignorance constantly on display in your proffered “truths” – your inability to deal directly with the rebuttals brought against your speciousness by people with more familiarity with facts?
    OR …is this something you do to earn a dollar?
    I’m sure the first words out of your typing fingers will be “Ad Hominem”, and you will be correct.
    As I mentioned in an earlier post on a different subject: If there is nothing of substance presented in the posts of disingenuous people that lends itself to open and honest discussion, we’re left with our pleas, mostly unacknowledged, that the poster simply shut up and leave the discussion to the adults in the room. And when that doesn’t work, (because it never does), we’re reduced to pointing out the obvious flaws in their motivational makeup in an attempt to discredit the lies that are sure to follow their earlier ones.
    Keyboard Kommandos like you weary me. Sadly, that is most likely your intent. DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE. CASTING SNIDE ASPERSIONS ON YOUR CRITICS. MUDDYING THE WATERS WITH OBFUSCATION. (emphasis added) You never stop. You never seem to tire.
    Sigh.”

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  25. TonyForesta says:

    As if the blatant fascism and ruthless mangling, dismembering, perversion, betrayal, and reengineering of the Constitution were not ground enough for this lying partisans depature, – the scene with a heavily sedated and very Ashcroft being strong armed by this fascist is one of the most despicable in the chequered annals of American politics.
    Bush’s pathetic speech today was another example of the pathological lying that is endemic and systemic in the Bush government. Gonzales is in NO WAY HONORABLE. His fascist machinations as attorney general and pathological lying were the single cause of his just demise, and long overdue resignation. There is no “goodname” with regard to Gonzales, and neither was he “dragged through the mud”. Rather in truth, congress finally exercised it’s Contitutional mandate to provide a check and balance to an executive office run amock, and shielded by a justice department that served the president exclusively to the great disadvantage and discredit of the American people.
    Good by, and good riddance fascist!
    “Deliver us from evil!”

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  26. MP says:

    Posted by Carroll at August 27, 2007 08:10 PM
    Funny how even the slightest push back pushes you over. As to all the books you want me to read…and as to your deciding which topic is under discussion here…sorry no dice.
    (Nor do I respond to threats. Sorry.)
    Either that, or you read all the real books on anti-Semitism…all the books on the real history of the Jewish people…all the books on what Zionism really is and not the phony horseshit purveyed on these threads…
    In short, once you educate yourself on what you CLAIM to know about here day in and day out…
    Then perhaps a real conversation could take place.
    You’re starting to sound like Decco, who really is an anti-Semite, but just doesn’t it know it yet. Just ask him about how the “Jews control everything.” Not only here…but like everywhere.
    Then sit back, ’cause he’s got a LOT to say.

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  27. PissedOffAmerican says:

    If anyone doubts what a slimey piece of shit George Bush is, all they need do is ponder his following statement….
    “It is sad that we live in a time when a talented and honorable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeded from doing important work because his good name was dragged through the mud for political reasons,”
    Bush has absolutely NO integrity or honesty. It is truly a gauge of a fallen society, and a failed system, when some worthless fucking worm like Bush can preside as President.

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  28. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Gee, MP musta got over his “I’m against AIPAC” phase. I kinda wish he’d go back into his “You’re a nasty ‘ol anti-semite whenever you say anything against AIPAC or Israel” phase. It was just so much more representative of his true loyalties and mindset.

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  29. Carroll says:

    I have been reading Tony Karon’s and Daniel Levy’s blogs since Steve recommended them some time ago and they are the best sources for what is going on inside various heads in the ME..sort of like a TWN for the ME countries foreign policy.
    Thought everyone might be interested in this from his blog.
    ” Peter Galbraith recently offered an eloquent explanation for why the Iraqi political leadership is unwilling to compromise to accomodate the Sunnis, which is the cornerstone of the U.S. plan for national reconciliation.
    Unlike the politicians in Washington who seem blithely oblivious in their campaign-trail debates, the Iraqis — like everyone else in the Middle East — are well aware of the limits of American power, and the fact that it is on the wane. The signs are everywhere now, nowhere more so than in the fact that even the regimes most dependent on direct U.S. military support — Iraq and Afghanistan — are simply ignoring the Bush Administration’s injunctions against consorting with Iran.
    They know the U.S. has shot its wad, and that it can’t sustain the current troop “surge” beyond next spring. They smell the panic in the discussion in Washington over how and when to pull the troops out, as the underpinnings of American power begin to creak ominously, like that bridge in Minneapolis — in an extraordinary intervention in the Financial Times, recently, U.S. comptroller David Walker compared the U.S. to the Roman Empire on the eve of its collapse, warning that current debt, taxation and expenditure levels combined with infrastructural decay, an aging population and ruinous military commitments abroad have created a “burning platform” for U.S. governance.
    Even as Washington was calling for his head, Maliki was in Damascus, cutting new security and economic deals with an Assad regime that, according to the fanciful projections of the neocons at the start of the Iraq adventure, ought to be have been but a memory by now.
    Curiously enough, it is in the options now facing that Assad regime that best illustrate the extent of the collapse of Pax Americana in the Middle East. Seeking a readout on the Maliki-Assad talks, I emailed Joshua Landis whose Syria Comment blog remains an absolutely indispensable source on all things Syrian. His explanation:
    Syria has reached a decisive moment in its regional politics. As it becomes clear that the U.S. must begin withdrawing from Iraq in the coming year and that the surge was only a temporary U.S. excuse to prolong a losing hand in Iraq, Syria must decide what strategy it will pursue toward a post-American Iraq. Will it side with Iran in supporting a Shiite government or will it side with Saudi Arabia in supporting the Sunni resistance?
    It is in this context that we must see both the Maliki visit to Damascus and the Syria-Saudi spat. Syria has placed itself in between Saudi Arabia and Iran. It has not only supported the Sunni resistance leaders but also improved relations with the Shiite dominated government through visits, increased security measures at the border, and by establishing diplomatic relations and an embassy in Baghdad.
    Maliki is now visiting Damascus in order to lock Syria into a pro-government stand. Maliki is also being attacked by U.S. congressional leaders as an ineffective leader. Some have called for his replacement. He is fighting for his life and recently stated that if America abandons him, “he can find friends elsewhere.” He is turning to Syria and Iran.
    Syria was hoping that as the U.S. withdrew from Iraq, Saudi Arabia would seek better relations with Syria in order to create “Arab solidarity” and a united regional front in the face of Iranian penetration of Iraq.
    Syria wants to gain Saudi acquiescence for Syria’s role in Lebanon in exchange for Syrian support of Saudi policy in Iraq. This “deal” has not happened. Saudi Arabia and the U.S. are holding firm in Lebanon and continuing to deny any concessions to the Lebanese opposition ……
    read the whole thing…
    http://tonykaron.com/2007/08/24/malikis-fate-and-americas/

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  30. Carroll says:

    Posted by Carroll at August 27, 2007 02:56 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Here’s a question for you: If you’re interested in every life Israel doesn’t save, or kills, why aren’t you interested in every life Israel saves or refuses to kill?
    Posted by MP at August 27, 2007 05:56 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Label Warning:
    Engaging me on the subject of how many children and others have died trying to get medical help while waiting at one of Israel’s checkpoints could be hazard to your mental health.
    I am not in the mood for crapola whine on this today.

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  31. Carroll says:

    Posted by MP at August 27, 2007 05:53 PM
    >>>>>>>>
    I tell you what MP, first you educate yourself on what is actually under discussion here.. undesirable influences on US foreign policy and corrupt politicans.
    Start with this amazon list:
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    The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt (Hardcover – Aug 27, 2007)
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    2.
    The Power of Israel in the United States by James Petras (Paperback – Sep 26, 2006)
    Buy new: $16.95 $11.53 42 Used & new from $10.29
    Excerpt – page 21: “… to the state interests of Israel. 4. The power of the pro-Israel lobbies exceeds that of the oil …”
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    Palestine Peace Not Apartheid by Jimmy Carter (Paperback – Sep 18, 2007)
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    They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel’s Lobby by Paul Findley (Paperback – May 1, 2003)
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    Excerpt – page 1: “… “the number one enemy of Israel” and my re-election campaign the principal target of Israel’s lobby. …”
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    The Deadliest Lies: The Israel Lobby and the Myth of Jewish Control by Abraham H. Foxman (Hardcover – Sep 4, 2007)
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    >>>>>>>>>>
    There are 443 books on it just at amazon, try to pick something besidies a Lukid propaganda book from the ADL. Just go to amazon.com, put in Israel Lobby and keep clicking next to go thru them all…might take a while.

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  32. MP says:

    Posted by arthurdecco at August 27, 2007 06:23 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, Artie. I don’t. Sorry.

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  33. arthurdecco says:

    MP said: “Here’s a question for you…”(now translated into English from BullShite): “Blah, blah blah blah. blah blah, blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah.
    There, that makes more sense than the original, doncha think?.

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  34. MP says:

    Posted by Carroll at August 27, 2007 02:56 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Here’s a question for you: If you’re interested in every life Israel doesn’t save, or kills, why aren’t you interested in every life Israel saves or refuses to kill?

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  35. MP says:

    Posted by Carroll at August 27, 2007 03:19 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Unfortunately, this article doesn’t really supports your assertion about “realignment wars,” etc. At a basic level, it’s no secret that Hillary and Dems in general get a big chunk of Jewish and pro-israel money. Nor is there anything wrong with Jews raising money for Israel, is there?
    So it’s a little hard to see how this article among the evidence that’s becoming “more and more damning.”

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  36. pauline says:

    With gonzo AND rover gone, can I put out the bigger wish that shoot’em-up-cheney just might be on an upcoming resignation list? maybe for health reasons? (yea, like the health of the nation!)
    Isn’t it amazing the feds read all our e-mails (and listen to all our calls), but conveniently can’t find thousands upon thousands of their own!?!
    Is this bigger wish even a possibility now?

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  37. semper fubar says:

    David N & Carroll:
    tritto
    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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  38. Sandy says:

    Happy Birthday, Steve!
    I agree with Sid Blumenthal. Gonzo’s gone because Rove, his puppet-master left. There was so much heat in the kitchen…and no one to tell him what to do next. Bush actually called him “Fredo”!

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  39. Carroll says:

    Posted by David N at August 27, 2007 04:02 PM
    >>>>>>>>>
    Ditto.

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  40. David N says:

    Pardon my French, but big fucking deal.
    This means nothing. It is, if anything, part of the Rove bugout, which has no other goal than to avoid accountability, or even discussion, for the criminal behavior of this pack of fascists.
    Gonzo goes back to Texas, gets a money spout into his account, and laughs all the way to the bank.
    And when responsible Democrats (there are no responsible Republicans) try to keep the investigations of their criminal, anti-democratic, unConstitutional behavior going, the corporate media and its handmaidens will talk about how the Democrats are “piling on.”
    Hell, the crimes are so outrageous, and so many, that any comprehensive look at them would be “piling on.”
    When Bush, Cheney, Gonzo, Rove, and about a hundred other fascists are in Guantanimo, I’ll be satisfied. Until then, I weep for my country, which is slowly being strangled to death by the power-mad servants of the corporate interests.
    Here’s an idea. An amendment to the Constitution, overturning the legal fictions that have so distorted our entire society, not just its politics:
    1. A corporation is not a person. It is subject to the laws, regulations, and control of government and society, and responsible for correcting the harm it does. It does not, however, have any claim to any of the rights and privileges of a citizen, or an actual human being.
    2. Money is not speech. Wealth does not entitle one to have any more value for his opinion, beliefs, or interests than anyone else. Speech is speech; money is bribes.
    Or is that too hard to understand?

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  41. Carroll says:

    For MarkL…….
    The evidence against Hillary as different from current foreign poicy is becoming more and more damning.
    She is definitely the “go to” girl for the Israeli Lukids and the neo’s ME “realignment wars.
    No way she will buck or spit on this money spigot, she will be another wur prez angling for that second term. Right now I am betting she will “frame it even bigger” and compare it to the WWII cause to get public support.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/897582.html

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  42. Carroll says:

    Opps, looks like I was wrong, Chertoff and DHS will probably use “barcodes” instead of colored codes for Arabs since Israel is switching from “color codes” to “barcodes” for Arabs
    >>>>>>>>>
    August 10, 2007
    Israel ends use of color codes to ID Arabs
    After months of persistent complaints about discriminatory security screening at Ben Gurion Airport, the Israeli government this week announced new steps to address the issue.
    The only problem is that the steps are aimed at the symptoms, not the underlying problem.
    Under the old policies, airport security placed different color stickers on the luggage of travelers depending on whether they were Arab or Jewish.
    Jewish passengers routinely zip through the process while Arab travelers and others considered potential security risks are diverted to a more intense and often invasive security check.
    Instead of addressing the underlying complaints that the whole process is discriminatory, Israel decided to get rid of the color coded tags and replace them with universal bar codes.
    In other words, passengers will no longer be able to tell by the color of the sticker who is being subjected to the higher security check.
    The change failed to assuage Israeli lawmakers who have been pushing for more substantive changes.
    “Using numbers is like a yellow star in the Holocaust,” Arab-Israeli lawmaker Taleb Sana told Israel’s Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper. “It is a mark of Cain for Israel. The security concerns cannot be used to render this racism kosher.”
    Rania Joubran (right), a young Arab-Israeli diplomat who received an apology from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert when she was subjected to a tough security interrogation, also said she had seen no substantive changes that address her concerns.
    And she has yet to hear anything back about her own complaint..
    >>>>>>>>>

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  43. Carroll says:

    More good news!!! From the Overseas Headquarters of our Fourth Reich Homeland Security.
    Very young threatening Terrier who could have grown up to kill Israeli Jews foiled at checkpoint:
    Gazan baby dies after 4-hour wait to cross border
    “An ill, one-year-old Palestinian baby died in his father’s arms on Sunday after the pair passed several hours under baking sun waiting to cross from the Gaza Strip into Israel, medics said”. Despite the fact they had a pass to go through the checkpoint. The one year was suffering from a heart condition.
    AFP 26 8 07
    But alas, one slipped thru the net:
    “Egyptian Man Swims Home From Gaza Strip”

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  44. pauline says:

    Steve:
    Bonne anniversaire, monsieur!
    Comment allez-vous, aujourd’hui?
    Le jeur de gloire est arrive!

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  45. MarkL says:

    Happy Birthday Steve.

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  46. Robert Morrow says:

    scary thought, Bush really wanted to be Gonzales on the SUPREME COURT until the rightwingers raised hell out that. Gonzales was Bush’s secret pick before Harriet Miers.

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  47. Stephen Dulaney says:

    Happy Birthday and what a gift.
    My birthday in on Aug 31st any idea what I get?
    Stephen Dulaney

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  48. Brigitte L. says:

    As my fellow-blogger David Epstein titled his post, “Alberto Gone-Zales.”
    http://www.reflectivepundit.com/reflectivepundit/2007/08/alberto-gone-za.html

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  49. Carroll says:

    Speaking of Chertoff, I saw Firday that Homeland Security has adopted a new rule toward Britain.
    They will deny entry into the US for any Britains on their “list” and will not have to give any reason for the denial to the individual or the UK.
    I imagine this is aimed at British Muslims.
    How long till the Chertoff’s make Muslims start wearing green stars as identification?
    The more things change the more they stay the same, the characters just exchange roles.

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  50. Carroll says:

    Happy, happy Steve.
    My birthday is the 27th too but in January…what will I get?
    Maybe investigations into the lies of the OSP cabal and into the where all the Iraq money went?
    Probably not since that only concerns the dead and looted and not the political parties.
    Gonzales leaving is good I suppose but does it do anything to prevent the same thing happening again? I doubt if resigning makes a dent in these kind of people, they have no shame.
    Crime and corruption have become so commonplace in government that people are desensitized to it.

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  51. profmarcus says:

    patrick fitzgerald, not chertoff… just sayin’…
    http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/

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  52. pauline says:

    from John Conyers:
    “It is a sad day when the Attorney General of the United States resigns amid a cloud of suspicion that the system of justice has been manipulated for political purposes. More than accountability, we need answers. Unfortunately, the continued stonewalling of the White House in the U.S. Attorney scandal has deprived the American people of the truth. If the power of the prosecutor has been misused in the name of partisanship, we deserve a full airing of the facts. The responsibility to uncover these facts is still on the Congress, and the Judiciary Committee in particular.”

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  53. pauline says:

    Senator Leahy on gonzo:
    “Under this Attorney General and this President, the Department of Justice suffered a severe crisis of leadership that allowed our justice system to be corrupted by political influence. It is a shame, and it is the Justice Department, the American people and the dedicated professionals of our law enforcement community who have suffered most from it.
    “The obligations of the Justice Department and its leaders are to the Constitution, the rule of law and the American people, not to the political considerations of this or any White House. The Attorney General’s resignation reinforces what Congress and the American people already know — that no Justice Department should be allowed to become a political arm of the White House, whether occupied by a Republican or a Democrat.
    “The troubling evidence revealed about this massive breach is a lesson to those in the future who hold these high offices, so that law enforcement is never subverted in this way again. I hope the Attorney General’s decision will be a step toward getting to the truth about the level of political influence this White House wields over the Department of Justice and toward reconstituting its leadership so that the American people can renew their faith in its role as our leading law enforcement agency.”

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  54. Marcia says:

    P.S.
    Scott Horton has a good post up on “No Comment” about Gonzales.

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  55. Marcia says:

    If the rumors that Chertoff is the nominee to replace him there is no improvment.
    It is also said that he has a dual nationality, is this fact or hearsay?
    If the dual nationality exists I find it surprising that he could hold an office such as AJ
    but Chuck Shumer is already lyrical about co-operating with the president. Would a nominee dual American-Iranian or American-Chinese be eligible?
    Congress needs a wake-up call but of Tusami power!

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  56. Beth says:

    Happy Birthday Steve!
    Congrats on making it another year. And remember, the alternative to aging is a worse option.
    Re: Gonzales–Isn’t his role similar to the doorman at the Bada Bing, keeping the authorities away so we don’t see what really going on? I’m afraid this resignation will just obscure the scene more, and that justice will never be served for the crimes against the Constitution that Bush and Cheney have committed.

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  57. Chuck says:

    You’re right, Steve. It is a birthday present. Now, beware of 5’7″ tall birthday cakes. Cheers.

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  58. pauline says:

    Chairman Chertoff rumored to be gonzo replacement?
    Check this out –
    “It is worth a reminder on Mr. Chertoff that:
    FEMA was unable to fully support the accuracy and completeness of certain unpaid obligations, and accounts payable, and the related effects on net position, if any, prior to the completion of DHS’s 2006 PAR. These unpaid obligations, as reported in the accompanying DHS balance sheet as of September 30, 2006, were $22.3 Billion or 46% of DHS consolidated unexpended appropriations at September 30, 2006.
    To give some idea of proportionality, in fiscal year 2005 the entire Grants and Training (formerly know as State and Local Government Preparedness, a/k/a grants to get working radios for NYC firemen and protection for bridges, tunnels, chemical plants and nuclear facilities) was only $171 million.
    So, follow me here, FEMA has lost and/or failed to account for a sum of money that is almost half of DHS’s entire budget and 130 times greater than the amount of money that the Department of Homeland Security is willing to spend to secure the homeland.”
    http://www.firedoglake.com/

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  59. PissedOffAmerican says:

    If Chertoff is put in there, we are far worse off.

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  60. TokyoTom says:

    Gonzales had done everything Bush wanted, but Bush needed to use Gonzales’ resignation to stanche the flow of warm bodies from the Justice Dept. Gonzales was loathsome, but simply in proving that loyalty to Bush took precedence over everything, including oaths to obey the Constitution and laws.
    No douct Bush and his supporters will continue to make sure Gonzales is well-fed.

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