J Street Statement on Gaza Attack

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Just received the following from one of the principal shakers in the self-described “pro-Israel, pro-Peace” activist group, J Street. From Jeremy Ben-Ami, J Street’s Executive Director:

While this morning’s air strikes by Israeli Defense Forces in Gaza can be understood and even justified in the wake of recent rocket attacks, we believe that real friends of Israel recognize that escalating the conflict will prove counterproductive, igniting further anger in the region and damaging long-term prospects for peace and stability.
Respecting Israel’s right to defend itself, we urge leaders there to recognize that there is no military solution to what is fundamentally a political conflict between the Israeli and Palestinian peoples.
Today’s IDF strikes will deepen the cycle of violence in the region. Retaliation is inevitable, though we don’t know how far the violence will spread or how many more Israelis and Palestinians will die and suffer in the days and weeks to come.
We call for immediate, strong diplomatic intervention by the United States, the Quartet and allies in the region to negotiate a resumption of the ceasefire which dramatically reduced violence and preserved quiet for over five months.
The United States, the Quartet, and the world community must not wait – as they did in the Israel-Lebanon crisis of 2006 – for weeks to pass and hundreds or thousands more to die before intervening. There needs to be an urgent end to the new hostilities that brings a complete cessation to the rocket fire out of Gaza and that allows food, fuel and other civilian necessities into Gaza.
The need for diplomatic engagement goes beyond a short-term ceasefire. Eight years of American neglect and ineffective diplomacy have led us directly to a moment when the prospects of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict hang in the balance and with them the prospects for Israel’s long-term survival as a Jewish, democratic state.
We urge the incoming Obama administration to lead an early and serious effort to achieve a comprehensive diplomatic resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian and Arab-Israeli conflicts.
This is a fundamental American interest as we too stand to suffer as the situation spirals, rage in the region is directed at the United States, and our regional allies are further undermined. Our goals must be a Middle East that moves beyond bloody conflicts, an Israel that is secure and accepted in the region, and an America secured by reducing extremism and enhancing stability. None of these goals are achieved by further escalation.
Even in the heat of battle, as friends and supporters of Israel, we need to remember that only diplomacy and negotiations can end the rockets and terror and bring Israel long-term security and peace.

More later. About to depart for airport and trip to Carson City, Nevada.
– Steve Clemons

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43 comments on “J Street Statement on Gaza Attack

  1. ronmossad says:

    Just because someone calls themselves “pro-Israel” doesn’t necessarily make it so.
    http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2009/09/j-dead-end-street.html
    In the end, J Street is a great “hope and change” alternative to real Israel lobbying. Hope for terrorists and change that reduces the support for the only real democracy in the Middle East.

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  2. rykart says:

    Pro-Israel and pro-peace??!?
    That’s just as preposterous as pro-Nazi and pro-peace.

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  3. Sasi Moha says:

    This is normal from Israelies when ever there is a government election they need to show to thier people how many Palestineans they kill (especially childern and women).
    As well as Bush, where they are getting all support.

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  4. arthurdecco says:

    “While this morning’s air strikes by Israeli Defense Forces in Gaza can be understood and even justified in the wake of recent rocket attacks…”
    I stopped reading here.
    More garbage designed to obfuscate and confuse. And I naively thought J Street was going to mean something different.

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  5. WigWag says:

    “(Oops, sorry, couldn’t resist.)”
    It is very unlike you, POA, to apologize for criticizing your fellow Washington Note readers.
    So, I’ll take it as a compliment.

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  6. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “I certainly prefer your sympathy to your comparing me to a baboon or a child as you did earlier in the week”
    Are you sure he didn’t just mispell “buffoon”?
    (Oops, sorry, couldn’t resist.)

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  7. rich says:

    Well, there you go. A good propagandist always knows when to tell the truth.

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  8. WigWag says:

    “What, wigwag? No on-topic reply? Nothing of substance to contribute?”
    “I’d really love to see you engage in good faith, on-point and on-topic, with some integrity on these critical issues.”
    Rich, you’ve outed me! I’m the least substantive commentator here.

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  9. Paul Norheim says:

    Hey rich,
    100 tons of bombs are raining over Gaza City!
    This doesn`t happen every day. So why are you trying to spoil
    WigWag`s good mood?

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  10. rich says:

    What, wigwag? No on-topic reply? Nothing of substance to contribute? You haven’t even the fortitude to address the issue, but hey. That’s standard.
    And for the third time, I cited a William S. Burroughs metaphor that described human primate behavior using primate behavior of baboons as an analogy. I said it described your behavior with great precision, and I did not compare you personally to anything nor use it to decribe you. Try to get it right. Your tactics, though, speak volumes.
    You’ve got some catching up to do. I’d really love to see you engage in good faith, on-point and on-topic, with some integrity on these critical issues.
    There’s great diversity of opinion in Israel, and great political diversity. But some hard stance must be taken for the rule of law. Progressives and those with any understanding of Realpolitik and of the dynamics of democracy must take a hard line against the status quo, against settler terrorism, and against the inexorable policy that tolerates ethnic cleansing, both active and by default.
    Again: I’ll admanatly defend Israel’s right to exist; I’ll equally adamantly insist it uphold every standard of behavior to which every other nation is held accountable. It’s hardly unreasonable. It’s not slightly anti-Semitic. And you can’t have it both ways. There’s no purity or gain or moral high ground in citing an aggrieved history on which to found Israel, and turning around and building a track record so unjust that not only can no one live with it, but it threatens the very survival of Israel despite all that’s gone before. Now that’s hubris of biblical proportions.
    p.s. — you’re missing something.

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  11. WigWag says:

    “I’m beginning to feel sorry for wigwag.”
    Rich, thanks so much. I certainly prefer your sympathy to your comparing me to a baboon or a child as you did earlier in the week.

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  12. ... says:

    remember rachel corrie? American activist killed in a demonstration in Palestine when an Israeli military bulldozer struck her on March 16, 2003. She was 23. that is israel terrorism.. the usa condones it…

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  13. rich says:

    wigwag @ 7:17PM
    “Yes there is a reason that the Palestinian people felt a need to reach out to an Islamic fundamentalist movement. It’s the same reason the Afghans reached out to the Taliban. It’s the same reason that the lashkar-e-Toiba left their bases in Kashmir to attack Mumbai. It’s the same reason that al-Itihad al-Islami is attempting to take over Somalia.”
    But it’s not the same reason Israel tolerates Jewish settlers — coddles these right-wing terrorists –in their midst.
    Israel’s ‘settlers’ use an offensive method of clearing native Palestinians from the land they own. It’s done actively, through violence. It’s done by default. It’s done inexorably, by policy, and by squeezing the economic and agrarian lifeblood from an entire people.
    Hamas, at least, has the very survival of the Palestinian nation as motivation — and self-defense as entirely reasonable justification for their existence. Nothing Israel says can legitimately assert they are “under attack.”
    I’m beginning to feel sorry for wigwag. This is, by definition, a Warsaw Ghetto situation. Israel needs to resolve the root issue, end its policies of death, and embark on a politically responsive path that results in a Palestinian state, with full civil rights and a land swap that guarantees access to resources (water, arable land) and an economically viable future. In short, no bantustans.
    All the propaganda in the world can’t change that reality.
    Everybody knows: Jewish settlers engage in offensive actions to take land from Palestinians, and settlers are right-wing terrorists who often attack fellow Israelis. Everyone knows: Palestinians are defending the land they own, their families, and their homeland. Their very survival is at stake, and they act in self-defense.
    Look, great differences of opinion exist in Israel. Not every Jewish Israeli approves of Israeli policy, and many recognize the self-inflicted damage of the current apartheid. So no one’s over-generalizing. But it’s time for those moderates to speak up, to demand accountability.
    Israel — left, right or center — just cannot legitimately or reasonably complain about ‘civilian casualties’ when the entire civilian population of Palestine is being denied access to basic resources required for survival, humiliated, abused or killed, or otherwise just throttled from the face of the earth.
    Israel has the power to change this dynamic, and come to terms with political reality. It has only to refer to its own (20th Century, 2000+ year) history to know why it must do so.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRQwvnjpPw&feature=related

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  14. jaydee says:

    Two words come to mind about the slaughter in Gaza.
    Warsaw Ghetto.
    J Street stops short of condemning the slaughter.
    Warsaw Ghetto

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  15. Cee says:

    Joshua,
    So when the Israelis broke the ceasefire,
    a) was their accusation that Hamas was going to kidnap another soldier accurate?
    So they said. Yawn. They are always looking for an excuse. They need to start worrying about freeing Shalit.
    A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today after Israeli troops killed six Hamas gunmen in a raid into the territory.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians
    2) The Hamas response was a rocket barrage on civilians? There’s no crime in that
    It is a crime and Israel should stop instigating the attacks.

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  16. Paul Norheim says:

    We obviously live in what the Chinese ironically call “interesting
    times”:
    Moderate people everywhere hope that one of those who right
    now is dropping 100 tons of bombs in Gaza City, Ehud Barak, will
    win the next election, because his rival Netanyahu is the hard-
    liner and extremist in Israeli politics.

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  17. jhm says:

    While I decry the recent (in fact all, truth be told) attacks by all
    sides in this conflict, and agree that there is no military solution,
    there would seem to be little political solution should Bibi come to
    be PM. So perhaps these actions will prevent that contingency.

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  18. Joshua says:

    CEE DEE,
    “Israel broke the four-month-old ceasefire on November 4, when an Israeli unit entered the Gaza Strip and attacked an area in the central Strip, claiming that Palestinians were digging a tunnel and intended to “kidnap” an Israeli soldier. When Hamas responded to this ceasefire violation with rockets…”
    1) So when the Israelis broke the ceasefire,
    a) was their accusation that Hamas was going to kidnap another soldier accurate?
    b) what kind of damage was done, beyond the demolition of a tunnel that could likely have been used to attack Israel?
    2) The Hamas response was a rocket barrage on civilians? There’s no crime in that, nor an over-reaction I’m sure. It’s perfectly natural to retaliate by killing civilians for the destruction of an offensive tunnel. No terrorism there, the only terrorists are the Israelis? Logical to some maybe. Not to me.

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  19. kotzabasis says:

    This is political frolicking at its best by J Street. And for Clemons to give it the political prominence it does not deserve on his Site shows him to be also susceptible to this frolicking. It asks for a political and diplomatic intervention by the U.S., the Quartet, and other allies to “negotiate a resumption of the ceasefire and hopes against hope that such intervention could bring an end to “new hostilities” and “a complete cessation of the rocket fire from Gaza.” But for more than forty years now a multiplicity of interventions and numerous ceasefires and truces have led nowhere and indeed have exacerbated the cycle of violence and the greater dangers emanating from this in the region.
    The political savants involved intellectually in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict are as yet unable to realize that this conflict is fuelled by the unremitting hate of the Palestinians, and generally of most Muslims, for Israel. One cannot appease hate, especially when a generation of children are instructed in it. Anyone who has read the great playwrights from Aeschylus to Shakespeare knows quite well that the fierce passion of hate trumps all other passions and beyond, which includes reason. A recent example of this was the ascension of Obama to the presidency that was fuelled by the hate many Americans had for Bush-Cheney and by association the Republicans and which trumped even the strong passion of racism that furtively hides in the hearts of a majority of Americans.
    So to believe as J Street does that the Palestinian –Israeli conflict can only be resolved by political and diplomatic means and not military, is childishly delusional.

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  20. WigWag says:

    Well … I’m sure glad you cleared that up for us!

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  21. ... says:

    it is apparent from israels actions that they condone violence and don’t really give a shit about the life’s of those in gaza.. i don’t really care what any books say as actions speak louder then words and the actions are plain for all to see..

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  22. WigWag says:

    Fine DICKERSON3870, examine Israel’s “Basic Law” to see if you can find language similar to the language in the Hamas founding document.

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  23. DICKERSON3870 says:

    FROM ABOVE: “Why don’t you look up the Constitution of Israel…”
    ME: They do not exactly have one!
    FROM WIKIPEDIA:
    Background
    The State of Israel was supposed to adopt a formal written constitution a few months after its declaration of independence in 14 May 1948. The declaration itself states that a constitution should be formulated and adopted no later than 1 October 1948. Adoption of a democratic constitution was also a demand of the General Assembly Resolution 181, which proposed the establishment of a “Jewish state”. The State of Israel failed to adopt a formal constitution. While the deadline stated in the declaration of independence proved unrealistic in light of the war which went on between the new state and its neighboring countries, general elections were arranged on 25 January, 1949, in order to elect the Constituent Assembly which would approve the new state’s constitution. The Constituent Assembly convened on 16 February 1949. It held several discussions about the constitution which soon reached a dead end.
    Several arguments were proposed against the adoption of a formal constitution. The Religious Jews at the time opposed the idea of their nation having a document which the government would regard as nominally “higher” in authority than religious texts such as the Tanakh, Talmud, and Shulkhan Arukh.
    The Harari Decision
    In 1949, the first Knesset came to what was called the Harari Decision. Rather than draft a full constitution immediately, they would postpone the work, charging the Knesset’s Constitution, Law, and Justice Committee with drafting the document piecemeal. Each chapter would be called a Basic Law, and when all had been written they would be compiled into a complete constitution.
    In 1998, Aharon Barak, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Israel declared a “constitutional revolution” and attached constitutional ascendancy to the Basic Laws of Israel. The basic laws are various pieces of legislation from the Knesset that outline the nation’s political structure.
    Between 1958 and 1988 the Knesset passed nine Basic Laws, all of which pertained to the institutions of state. In 1992, it passed the first two Basic Laws which related to rights and basis of the Supreme Court’s recently declared powers of judicial review. These are Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty, and Basic Law: Freedom of Occupation. These were passed by votes of 32-21 and 23-0, respectively……

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  24. WigWag says:

    “as for quoting the hamas charter, someone may as well quote the ugly parts of the jewish ideology towards ‘goyin’ and etc as this kind of shit is never one sided in spite of some folks desire to paint it that way..”
    Oh really. I quoted you what is in essence the Constitution of Hamas. It is the founding document of one of the two leading political parties of the Palestinians.
    Why don’t you look up the Constitution of Israel or, if you prefer, the charters of the Labor, Kadima or Likud Parties to see if you find similar language.
    This is not the same as some ugly ideology of a fringe group; its the preeminent ideology of one of the main protagonists in this drama.
    Hamas is even more disgusting than the religious Israeli settler movement. The only difference is that as bad as the settlers are, they don’t want to convert the Palestinians to Judiasm. If you read the Hamas document closely you will see this: “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam…” Hamas thinks “infidels” are inferior. Here’s a newsflash for you …, unless your a Muslim, that would be you.
    …so now we know who you think the good guys are. By the way, in the interest of making your rants more grammatically correct, the word is “goyim” not “goyin.” Just in case your interested.
    Sorry jdledell, your comment just doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Muslims are turning towards Islamic extremists all over the world; in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, in Somalia; everywhere.
    The Al-Aqsa Martyr Brigades were every bit as militant and violent as Hamas, maybe more so.
    Instead the Palestinians turned to the Party that thinks Christians and Jews are inferior; that thinks homosexuality is a capital offence and thinks women who don’t cover themselves should be stoned. But hey, that’s there choice.
    My only point is that those who think the Israelis can achieve peace by pulling out of the settlements are just plain ignorant. It is entirely possible that peace with Hamas will be impossible under any circumstances except the complete destruction of the movement by military means.
    I assume like me, you hope that doesn’t turn out to be true.

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  25. jdledell says:

    wigwag said – ” There are other national liberation movements they could have reached out to (like Fatah who they supported for 40 years).” For 40 years the Palestinians have asked Israel for for first autonomy then statehood. For 40 years Israel has said “f*#k you. Camp David was not a viable peace deal and you know it. All the Palestinians have known for 40 years – most of it peaceful – is Israel’s appropriation of the land for settlements. Remember what Sharon and Netanyahu told the Israelis the day after the Wye River agreement? Grab more hills, expand the territory,’ Sharon urged on Israel Radio. ‘Everything that’s grabbed will be in our hands. Everything we don’t grab will be in their hands.’ Makes you wonder why Palestinians turned to Hamas – huh?

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  26. ... says:

    one just has to look at the actions of either side to know that their is some ingrained ideology that thinks others are less then worthy, or that they are more special then those they have decided to murder… neither side has a religion or ideology that is worth much for this continued violence to happen… that is what all this says to me…

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  27. ... says:

    >>Today’s IDF strikes will deepen the cycle of violence in the region.<< that is true.. not sure what the folks who support either sides aggression think they are going to accomplish other then more death and a continued cycle of violence…
    as for quoting the hamas charter, someone may as well quote the ugly parts of the jewish ideology towards ‘goyin’ and etc as this kind of shit is never one sided in spite of some folks desire to paint it that way..

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  28. DonS says:

    POA, got your assignment. Hadn’t listened to the Bush AEI speech, but I did tune in to it some. As to being drug affected, I wasn’t initially impressed in the first few minutes or so, and may study the rest if I’m particularly bored or masochisitc. But what stuck me was typical Bush, i.e., not really interested in what he was saying, not really prepared, tyically offhand and shallow, and not particularly thoughtful.
    BTW, I am formally retiring from being a therapist in a public mental health clinic soon, like a couple of weeks.

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  29. American Patriot says:

    Wig Wag’s probably right. To paraphrase him: “nah nah nah nah boo boo.” Brilliant geostrategy Wig Wag, did you think of that yourself?

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  30. WigWag says:

    “Suffice to say that there is a reason the Palestinian people felt the need to reach out to Hamas”
    Yes there is a reason that the Palestinian people felt a need to reach out to an Islamic fundamentalist movement. It’s the same reason the Afghans reached out to the Taliban. It’s the same reason that the lashkar-e-Toiba left their bases in Kashmir to attack Mumbai. It’s the same reason that al-Itihad al-Islami is attempting to take over Somalia. It’s the same reason that according to yesterday’s New York Times, the form of Islam that Bosnians practice is becoming far more extreme.
    Israeli behavior towards the Palestinians doesn’t explain the rise of Hamas. There are other national liberation movements they could have reached out to (like Fatah who they supported for 40 years). The rise of militant Islam is occurring all over the Islamic world not just in the Middle East.
    The problem the Israelis now confront is that if they do want to make the sacrifices necessary for peace (which I doubt either the Israelis or Palestinians will be willing to make) they now confront a foe that may not be amenable to compromise of any type. The religious fanatics who make up Hamas are at least as fanatical as the most fanatical Israeli settlers and maybe more so.
    The ultimate victims of all of this are the Palestinians who will die in dramatically higher numbers than the Israelis will (they already have).
    But the Israelis have little choice. They can’t allow their nation to be attacked, no country would. But they can’t make peace because compromise will never be enough for the likes of Hamas. By substantially reducing the economic strangle-hold they have on Gaza the Israelis would run the risk that Hamas would develop the legitimacy and strength that Hezbollah has. Israel would be dumb to take that chance. And no one in the place of the Israelis (including all the sanctimonious commenters to be found here) would take that chance if they were in the Israeli’s place.
    Those who think peace is achievable between Israel and the Palestinians are deluding themselves. The skirmishes we are seeing today will occur on and off for many years. And there’s nothing J Street, Barack Obama or the readers of the Washington Note can do about it.

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  31. American Patriot says:

    Wow, Darryl Ross just called a group of people “rabid dogs.” What if someone called blacks “diseased monkeys” or Jews “blood-drinking pedophiles?” By the standard Darryl set, at least they would have recognized those groups as primates and humans respectively, right? So wouldn’t they be less racist than Darryl? But maybe Darryl doesn’t realize that being racist is a bad thing. That’s a Pandora’s box, Darryl.

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  32. Cee says:

    Gideon,
    07:59 09/11/2008
    Haniyeh: Hamas willing to accept Palestinian state with 1967 borders
    By Amira Hass, Haaretz Correspondent and News Agencies
    The Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, said on Saturday his government was willing to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.
    The Hamas leader spoke at a meeting with 11 European parliamentarians who sailed from Cyprus to the Gaza Strip to protest Israel’s naval blockade of the territory. Haniyeh told his guests Israel rejected his initiative.
    Clare Short, who served in the cabinet of former British prime minister Tony Blair, asked Haniyeh to repeat his offer. He said the Hamas government had agreed to accept a Palestinian state that followed the 1967 borders and to offer Israel a long-term hudna, or truce, if Israel recognized the Palestinians’ national rights.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1035414.html

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  33. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Until the Palestinians stop acting like rabid dogs….”
    There we go again. “Rabid Dogs”. Why don’t you bigots get with it, and say how you REALLY feel?
    How about “sand niggers” or “towel heads”?
    After all, if you aren’t shy about displaying your racism, why mince words?

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  34. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Hey Don…
    Did you happen to catch Bush’s rap before the AEI? I’d be interested to see if you share my opinion that he was stoned on barbituates.

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  35. DonS says:

    goes for you too Wigwag. Be part of the solutin not a continuing propagandist. Its getting old.

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  36. Darryl Ross says:

    If your neighbor started lobbing rocks over your suburban fence, what would you do? Call the cops (2y7fazoh wait, there are none…) or take matters into your own hands? Until the Palestinians stop acting like rabid dogs the Jews will have no other choice then to shoot them in the street.

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  37. DonS says:

    Gideon, your fear rhetoric is nothing more than that. Comparing facts on the ground to the rhetoric of either side indicates to those of us who choose to use our brains and live in a world not ruled by ideology that we must go beyond propaganda on both sides.
    You, and others like you in the comments, who think to cite rhetoric and pronouncements on either side as convincing, are part of the problem. You don’t want solutions. You want to “win”.
    The time has passed, at least on this website, where the threat of being called anti Semitic means aything. Bring something useful to the discussion, not just propaganda.

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  38. WigWag says:

    Here, quoted in full are the main provisions of the Hamas Charter. Has anyone from J Street actually read the Hamas Charter? If so, I would be very curious about how supporters of J Street think Israel (or of the Palestinian Authority for that matter) can compromise with people who celebrate this document. In the United States, we’re debating the likes of Rick Warren. These are the people the Israelis have to confront. And unlike Rick Warren’s followers, they have guns and missiles.
    As much as I criticized him when he was alive, this document makes me think that the late Samuel Huntington may have been right. This may really be a clash of civilizations. But it’s not necessarily a clash between Jews and Muslims or Christians and Muslims. Before peace can be reached in the Middle East it may be necessary to determine which Muslim nation will survive; the secular version or the version who would write the credo quoted here. The West, including Israel will need to develop their specific strategy depending on which type of Islamic State prevails.
    Preamble
    “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”
    Ideological Starting-Points
    “The Movement’s programme is Islam. From it, it draws its ideas, ways of thinking and understanding of the universe, life and man. It resorts to it for judgement in all its conduct, and it is inspired by it for guidance of its steps.”
    Characteristics and Independence:
    “The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.”
    The Universality of the Islamic Resistance Movement:
    “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.”
    Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Isalmic aqf:
    “The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day.”
    “This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.”
    Peaceful Solutions, Initiatives and International Conferences
    “Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.”
    “These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?”
    “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.”
    The Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine is an Individual Duty:
    “The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews’ usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.”
    The Role of the Moslem Woman:
    “The Moslem woman has a role no less important than that of the moslem man in the battle of liberation. She is the maker of men. Her role in guiding and educating the new generations is great. The enemies have realised the importance of her role. They consider that if they are able to direct and bring her up they way they wish, far from Islam, they would have won the battle. That is why you find them giving these attempts constant attention through information campaigns, films, and the school curriculum, using for that purpose their lackeys who are infiltrated through Zionist organizations under various names and shapes, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, espionage groups and others, which are all nothing more than cells of subversion and saboteurs.”
    The Palestinian Liberation Organization
    “Secularism completely contradicts religious ideology. Attitudes, conduct and decisions stem from ideologies.
    That is why, with all our appreciation for The Palestinian Liberation Organization – and what it can develop into – and without belittling its role in the Arab-Israeli conflict, we are unable to exchange the present or future Islamic Palestine with the secular idea. The Islamic nature of Palestine is part of our religion and whoever takes his religion lightly is a loser.
    The day The Palestinian Liberation Organization adopts Islam as its way of life, we will become its soldiers, and fuel for its fire that will burn the enemies.”
    Arab and Islamic Countries
    “The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups.”
    “Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. “May the cowards never sleep.”
    Followers of Other Religions: The Islamic Resistance Movement Is A Humanistic Movement
    “Under the wing of Islam, it is possible for the followers of the three religions – Islam, Christianity and Judaism – to coexist in peace and quiet with each other. Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing of Islam. Past and present history are the best witness to that.
    It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror.”

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  39. Cee says:

    Susan,
    They also just bombed a mosque according to CNN.
    J Street is worthless. Israel is NOT defending themselves. The failed state broke the ceasefire last month and continues to be an international outlaw.
    I just posted this elsewhere
    You might want to believe, Mr. Obama, that this is all the Palestinians’ own fault because they have been firing rockets into civilian areas of Israel and they deserve all the punishment they are receiving. But, in fact, Mr. Obama, if you were paying attention, and if you really cared, you would know that Israel started this latest round. Israel broke the four-month-old ceasefire on November 4, when an Israeli unit entered the Gaza Strip and attacked an area in the central Strip, claiming that Palestinians were digging a tunnel and intended to “kidnap” an Israeli soldier. When Hamas responded to this ceasefire violation with rockets, Israel imposed a total blockade on the already besieged territory and closed all entry and exit points.
    That was over four weeks ago. Four weeks, in which Gaza’s inhabitants have lived with dwindling food supplies, virtually no electricity, little heat as winter approaches, no medicines, no life. In those weeks, Israel has opened the border to one or two small food shipments, but this is like a drop in the ocean for a million and a half people already living in poverty. Within ten days of the Israeli closure, UNRWA, the United Nations refugee relief organization that provides food to Gaza’s huge refugee population, had run out of food for the 750,000 people it regularly feeds. Two-thirds of Gaza’s population are refugees who have already been living a miserable life in camps for over 60 years. Well over half of the total Gaza population are children.
    http://palestinethinktank.com/2008/12/05/kathleen-and-bill-christison-will-you-continue-to-ignore-gazas-suffering-mr-obama

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  40. Susan says:

    Over 220 dead now.
    I condemn Israel’s bombing of Gaza.

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  41. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Unfortunately, Gideon, considering the actions of the Bush Administration, I will not be visiting the Hamas website to check the veracity of your claims. In Bushworld, such an action could easily be used as evidence of being a terrorist sympathizer, particularly if these facist criminals are already upset with your message.
    However, I do regularly visit the AIPAC website, and can state with clear conscience that it is a cesspool of bullshit, fearmongering, propaganda, and exaggeration.
    Suffice to say that there is a reason the Palestinian people felt the need to reach out to Hamas, and I see no hope that Israel’s actions will temper the Palestinian’s ever increasing fondness for radical means of redress.
    And “J Street”? So far, all I have seen from them is tepid admonitions directed towards Israel, and the same timeworn excuses and justifications for Israel’s actions that we have come to expect from AIPAC and Washington. I suspect “J Street” has more in common with AIPAC than they would care to admit, and they may well be just another propaganda tool designed to appeal to those of us that have grown tired of AIPAC’s bullshit, machinations, and espionage.

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  42. jonst says:

    Wise statement by J Street. It will be disregarded, but it is wise, just the same.

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  43. Gideon says:

    To the so-called progressives and their phantom “Pro-Israel” / “Pro-Peace” fellow travelers:
    No matter what semantic gymnantics take place, there is no doubt as to what HAMAS seeks to acheive. Have any of you actually read their Charter? Understand their stated goals? Perhaps not. So, as a favor to the itellectually handicaped I submit the URL to their web site. I invite you to scroll-down to Article 7 of their Charter. Pay close attention to the “Kill Jews” part. Then, advise us as to what choices may be available for Israel to pursue. What? Negotiate their liquidation? Read their Charter!
    http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

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